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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    As, usual some on here offer nothing that is debatable other than lame insults that target the bill and Californians themselves as a bunch of crazy lefty people.


    I would say environment protection is a must as we live here and having bad Oxygen, and dirty water to drink is not a good thing. Also didn't you know that Fire works can cause fires and injury to people if used incorrectly. So it might also cause a bit of damage to the environment around these shows as well don't you think.


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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I know where it's at, the fact it's HAPPENING AT ALL...

    Is what is amazing.
    You said "this country" in an attempt to link this small town's fireworks law to the EPA...

    FAIL.

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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You said "this country" in an attempt to link this small town's fireworks law to the EPA...

    FAIL.
    And another lib linked a youtube video of a German fireworks plant going up in flames in the attempt to link it to Cali's stupid venture here....

    BIGGER FAIL

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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Pray tell, how doe sa once a year Fireworks display harm the environment in any way? Here's a hint, it doesn't. The over all "impact" is minor at best. Such over bearing mentality does nothing for the environment.
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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Good. Patriotism should include protecting the environment.
    If there's a forest fire most anywhere it would trump whatever nefarious effects of the smoke... Seriously, if environmentalism continues getting carried away as it's been, where's the end???

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Like many things, depends on how it turns out. Filing paperwork to set off a few bottle rockets is unreasonable but if a city puts on a giant show I don't see why they shouldn't consider the local area in terms of pollution.
    Ya... it'll be reasonable first, as an "assessment" and then there will be a drastic exageration of the impact and eventually each state will only be allowed 10 bottle rockets on the fourth of july, and there will be a massive climate luxury tax so those 10 bottle rockets will cost more then the entire shows we see today...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I know where it's at, the fact it's HAPPENING AT ALL...

    Is what is amazing.
    Ya I know... and it'll probably get worse before it gets better.

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Ever been to Disneyland at about 10:15 at night?? For about 9 months out of the year.. They have a firework display that is rather large every single night.. I lived in Westminister for a number years.. I used to climb up onto my friends roof and we would sit and watch it..

    People light fireworks off for other things besides the 4th of July.. Just saying..

    In either case.. I just go to the indian reservations now..
    Ya, BIG DEAL... any ashes settle to the ground, and the smoke dissipates... not to mention that in the hundreds of years that people have been using fireworks there's yet to be any significant impact, except for those accidents like in that video.

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I'd imagine there are a lot of toxic substances in some fireworks in order to give off the colors that they do.

    If it's a big show then local air, water, and land quality will be affected as the debris settles.

    This doesn't seem all the unreasonable.
    Ok, you care about that, but meanwhile you'll allow companies to put things like anti-freeze into food products to offset other toxic chemicals (in very low-doses)... no comment on the GMO studies that cause up to 100% sterility by the third generation of consumption, no comments when it comes to true toxic pollution, no worries for radiation... but a little bit of ash and some smoke and these people all got their boxers in a bunch.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    enviromentalism is a movement that requires-as a byproduct-government control of private property

    it soon becomes taken over by those who see government control of private property as the main goal rather than a byproduct
    Yes, and I hope that doesn't wind up happening... or we'll end up in a :


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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You said "this country" in an attempt to link this small town's fireworks law to the EPA...

    FAIL.

    Wherein did I say the EPA?

    The fail sir, is in your lap, or rather on your face.
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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Good. Patriotism should include protecting the environment.
    Like hell it should. If I want to burn football field sized American flag into the ground on my own property it's none of your business.

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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    enviromentalism is a movement that requires-as a byproduct-government control of private property

    it soon becomes taken over by those who see government control of private property as the main goal rather than a byproduct
    Bingo!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You imagine, you have no clue. Fireworks displays have been going on for DECADES, don't you think we'd of noticed any real impact by now?

    Oh, wait, better to force an environmental impact statement, "just in case" right?

    Thanks for the unwarranted rudeness. You wonder why people here question your intentions, yet you revert right back to snarkiness at the first opportunity. I wasn't trying to be offensive, I was just giving my opinion. Maybe I am ignorant, who knows? Am I not allowed to state what I am thinking now?

    I wasn't trying to suggest that they have a HUGE impact... I was just saying why do something that is toxic when we don't have to?

    Everything we do has non-toxic alternatives. If we put our minds to it, we can create equivalents to the things we have now, except they won't harm anything: not us or nature.

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