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    Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Mitt Romney (17%) and Sarah Palin (15%) now lead a smaller field of potential Republican presidential candidates in rank-and-file Republicans' preferences for the party's 2012 nominee. Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, and Herman Cain essentially tie for third, with Cain registering 8% support in his initial inclusion in Gallup "trial heat" polling. Notably, 22% of Republicans do not have a preference at this point.
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    Ron Paul actually came in at third with 10%. So, given that this is the second national phone poll to show him with 10% and a few percentage points away from the lead, where is all the national press coverage about how Paul is nipping at Romney's heels and is a potential frontrunner in this race? Why does the media have numerous articles not mentioning his name once when talking up the top-tier but giving people like Pawlenty and Huntsman, who are well below him, entire articles devoted to the potential threat they pose to Romney?

    It looks like even double digit national support is not enough to unravel the media blackout on Ron Paul.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    I think Jeb could come in at number one or two easily. Deep down inside, people cherish the idea of poking at Bush-haters.

    Just the possibility that there could actually be another President Bush is enough to make some extremists lose grip on reality.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: Gallup

    Ron Paul actually came in at third with 10%. So, given that this is the second national phone poll to show him with 10% and a few percentage points away from the lead, where is all the national press coverage about how Paul is nipping at Romney's heels and is a potential frontrunner in this race? Why does the media have numerous articles not mentioning his name once when talking up the top-tier but giving people like Pawlenty and Huntsman, who are well below him, entire articles devoted to the potential threat they pose to Romney?

    It looks like even double digit national support is not enough to unravel the media blackout on Ron Paul.
    The GOP field is fragmented with no clear front-runner. Additional candidates may yet enter the field. There is a lot of uncertainty. That degree of uncertainty is illustrated by the fact that 'no preference' was cited by the largest share of those surveyed. Once the race proceeds and greater clarity evolves, those close to the lead will very likely receive far more coverage. For now, who is in/is not in/may be entering the field will likely gain greater coverage than actual polling numbers that have little meaning given the present uncertainty. At this time, it is up to the candidates to distinguish themelves from the rest of the field. They cannot or should not expect the media to do it for them.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Run Sarah Run......I've been saying for months that Palin is the only shot that the GOP has. The GOP would be foolish NOT to convince Palin to run and then to nominate her.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    It looks like even double digit national support is not enough to unravel the media blackout on Ron Paul.
    His own fault the media ignores him... he has zero charisma and a chequered past with some radical (right wing) views on many topics. He is and never will be a serious candidate for the top office.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The GOP field is fragmented with no clear front-runner. Additional candidates may yet enter the field. There is a lot of uncertainty. That degree of uncertainty is illustrated by the fact that 'no preference' was cited by the largest share of those surveyed. Once the race proceeds and greater clarity evolves, those close to the lead will very likely receive far more coverage. For now, who is in/is not in/may be entering the field will likely gain greater coverage than actual polling numbers that have little meaning given the present uncertainty. At this time, it is up to the candidates to distinguish themelves from the rest of the field. They cannot or should not expect the media to do it for them.
    While Ron Paul certainly can raise his profile without the media that is not really the issue here. If he were a candidate with more views consistent with the establishment the corporate media would be all over him like flies on ****. That they are acting like he does not even exist or is a non-factor is evidence of an agenda on their part against Ron Paul. No rational human being could look at these sorts of figures and declare him a non-factor, especially given how his support looked at this same point in the previous campaign.

    Were the media truly interested in providing people with a full and accurate picture of the election and not looking to rig the outcome, it would treat Ron Paul like the top-tier candidate he is as indicated by his level of support.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    That they are acting like he does not even exist or is a non-factor is evidence of an agenda on their part against Ron Paul. No rational human being could look at these sorts of figures and declare him a non-factor, especially given how his support looked at this same point in the previous campaign.
    I don't know if one should term him a "non-factor" at this point in time, but IMO, he is a decided underdog and will have a steep uphill climb if he is to pose a serious threat of winning the GOP nomination. The base of support for his overall ideology is relatively narrow, even if he packages his ideas under the banner of liberty, the constitution, etc., concepts that have broad appeal.

    Were the media truly interested in providing people with a full and accurate picture of the election and not looking to rig the outcome, it would treat Ron Paul like the top-tier candidate he is as indicated by his level of support.
    IMO, rather than focusing on the horse race when, in fact, the candidates are not yet in the starting gate so to speak, I believe the media should provide more extensive coverage on the candidates' positions, ideas, etc. In the past, among other things, transcripts of candidates' speeches, background information on key issues, etc., were regularly and widely published and broadcast. As a result, the public was better informed.

    To be sure, candidates can provide far more information on their own via the Internet, distribute video through e-mail, alert people to upcoming events via the Social Media, etc. But the shortcoming of the new reality, rise of infotainment, pervasiveness soundbite orientation, is that people can self-select the information they receive in a way that was not possible when the major political news, discussions of key issues/events, were widely published and broadcast. Hence, today's media is, in part, responsible for nurturing a narrower perspective among the public. Only those who make a regular and active effort to be fully engaged and informed have a real chance to gain and maintain a big picture view of issues/events, political and otherwise.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Paul has a near-fanatical base of people who would love to see him as president, but I don't see him ever getting the nomination because his positions do not appeal to the social conservatives very much.

    Also, I personally think that some of his most vocal supporters do more harm than good for him. Too much conspiracy theory stuff. Right or wrong, people often judge a candidate based on who supports them. When a significant portion of Ron Paul's supporters come across as being crazier than ****house rats, it has a detrimental effect on his overall popularity.

    It's a pity because I like Ron Paul.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: Gallup

    Ron Paul actually came in at third with 10%. So, given that this is the second national phone poll to show him with 10% and a few percentage points away from the lead, where is all the national press coverage about how Paul is nipping at Romney's heels and is a potential frontrunner in this race? Why does the media have numerous articles not mentioning his name once when talking up the top-tier but giving people like Pawlenty and Huntsman, who are well below him, entire articles devoted to the potential threat they pose to Romney?

    It looks like even double digit national support is not enough to unravel the media blackout on Ron Paul.
    Knowing a little bit about politics, the media, and human nature I think there might be some blow back to all the negative media reports about Sarah Palin.


    Anyone who has done the research will find that she has been very affective in all her political positions and it does go against all we here constantly about how dumb she is. People are beginning to see that she really is a pretty intelligent woman.


    The stereo type that attractive women are air heads seems to be fading away when you look at the facts and ignore the rhetoric that comes from the media and Liberals in general.


    Truth is Ron Paul is a good man and has some good ideas and his head is in the right place, but he lacks the overall charisma needed to win. He is without a doubt smarter than Biden but truth is that;s not saying much. I have rocks in my yard that are smarter than Biden.


    I think it should be pointed out over and over that Obama has Biden as a running mate and he isn't as intelligent as a paper bag. How smart does that make Obama, really.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: Gallup

    Ron Paul actually came in at third with 10%. So, given that this is the second national phone poll to show him with 10% and a few percentage points away from the lead, where is all the national press coverage about how Paul is nipping at Romney's heels and is a potential frontrunner in this race? Why does the media have numerous articles not mentioning his name once when talking up the top-tier but giving people like Pawlenty and Huntsman, who are well below him, entire articles devoted to the potential threat they pose to Romney?

    It looks like even double digit national support is not enough to unravel the media blackout on Ron Paul.
    Because even though there are plenty of undecideds who might break for Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty or Jon Huntsman or (if she runs) Sarah Palin, they sure as hell aren't going to break for Ron Paul. That 10% support for Ron Paul is pretty close to his ceiling. Most Republican primary voters just flat-out disagree with him on the issues.
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