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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    This rise in the polls by Sarah Palin has a democrat like myself really worried. A few days ago I was convinced that no Republican could beat Obama in 2012 but now I see Palin has a movie coming out, has a national tour, and now is rapidly rising in the polls.

    I sure hope the GOP does not nominate Sarah Palin for president. I am really scared of Sarah Palin as a nominee. Every person should do all they have to do to make sure she does not get the nomination because it would really hurt the Obama reelection chances.




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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This rise in the polls by Sarah Palin has a democrat like myself really worried. A few days ago I was convinced that no Republican could beat Obama in 2012 but now I see Palin has a movie coming out, has a national tour, and now is rapidly rising in the polls.

    I sure hope the GOP does not nominate Sarah Palin for president. I am really scared of Sarah Palin as a nominee. Every person should do all they have to do to make sure she does not get the nomination because it would really hurt the Obama reelection chances.




    was that convincing?
    Palin is a democrat dream. I would prefer both parties actually put forth a valid candidate. I'd even appreciate a valid third party candidate, but that's a steep hill to climb.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    That is nonsense. As I said Ron Paul's approval ratings are far higher than his current share of the votes in these polls. In other words, he has plenty of room to grow.



    I know the corporate propaganda complex we call the media is telling you it is absolutely impossible, but the very things they claim to look to in order to determine that are telling the exact opposite. The data is saying he is fully capable of winning the nomination and ultimately the Presidency.
    His number is pretty high for the people who would never vote for him, though not as high as Palin's.
    Which of the following candidates would you never vote for?

    Candidate GOP Voters
    Donald Trump 50%
    Newt Gingrich 36%
    Sarah Palin 36%
    Mike Huckabee 34%
    Ron Paul 32%
    Mitt Romney 27%
    Michele Bachman 27%
    Gary Johnson 26%
    Rick Santorum 25%
    Herman Cain 17%
    Tim Pawlenty 16%
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    whoever the nominee is for the GOP, it doesn't matter because Obama will be the easiest person to run against. If anything, the GOP primaries will be harder. Palin has a good shot to win it and she would be a great president and certainly better than the president we have right now but at the end of the day, the nominee (if it's not another "mccain") can stream roll through Obama.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because even though there are plenty of undecideds who might break for Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty or Jon Huntsman or (if she runs) Sarah Palin, they sure as hell aren't going to break for Ron Paul. That 10% support for Ron Paul is pretty close to his ceiling. Most Republican primary voters just flat-out disagree with him on the issues.
    I may go the next step and search for it, but I seem to recall you claiming about 5 years ago that his ceiling was 3-5%.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I may go the next step and search for it, but I seem to recall you claiming about 5 years ago that his ceiling was 3-5%.
    found it.

    you claimed his ceiling was 10-15%, which makes you a a freaking genius.

    please accept my sincere apology for questioning you.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If you were a betting man, you wouldn't worry about such a statistically unlikely scenario as him being "knocked off".

    It'd be like holding pocket aces and folding because you are worried about someone pulling a flush with 7-2 off suit.

    Hell, the dude's going to be 76 this August. It's a far more reasonable assumption that his ticker gives out before the primaries than to worry about assasination.
    Ron Paul is not young, but he is in far better health than McCain. If he drops from a heart attack than it probably wouldn't be a natural condition. The problem is, you think that sort of thing is beyond people in our government but that is far from the case. As it stands they will do anything they can to keep Paul from taking the helm of the Presidency. If it comes down to either letting him rise to the highest office in the land or snuffing out his life I think the calculations would be in favor of the latter option.

    Honestly, the media coverage of Ron Paul has all the attributes of a media blackout. The way in which all the major media seek to isolate and demean his candidacy suggests very powerful people across the spectrum have very strong motivations for opposing him. We are talking about, in my opinion, people who would not bat an eye at killing their fellow Americans for political gain because they feel entitled to make those sorts of decision outside the public eye.

    Certainly the establishment will do everything within its power to convince the masses that Ron Paul is not good for them, that Ron Paul is not the candidate they want to choose. Obviously they have succeeded with most people here, even a number of those who actually support him. However, all he really needs is to build up support in Iowa and New Hampshire. After that there would be no denying his ability to achieve what the establishment insists is impossible.

    No doubt if he wins one or both of those major states you will see all sorts of attempts at demonizing him and defaming his character all over the media. A sudden U-turn will happen when the original states that are deemed to effectively determine the nomination become irrelevant in the eyes of pundits, just like the national polls have apparently become irrelevant. If directing the entire corporate media against him still fails to end his candidacy the tactics will just become increasingly dirty and if the only way to keep him out of office is to put him six feet under then some "lone crazy" is liable to take a few shots at him.

    I get that you may have a hard time seeing that because you have been so heavily indoctrinated with the lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Today's polling numbers are meaningless. Given the time involved, the uncertainty is so great that even a candidate who is in the lead is not assured of actually winning the nomination.
    That hasn't stopped them from using it to trumpet any other candidate, so why not with Ron Paul? Can you not see that there is an underlying motivation for denying Paul's candidacy? Any other candidate with these numbers would be getting all sorts of press coverage, but many in the media act like Ron Paul doesn't even exist. How can you not see that it is not about accurate press coverage and all about keeping people from voting for him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    His number is pretty high for the people who would never vote for him, though not as high as Palin's.
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    It seems pretty much every major candidate has similar figures. Only the lesser-known candidates have opposition lower than 25%. Notably the candidates who have higher unfavorability ratings all have far more media coverage and the preferred candidate of the establishment, Romney, is only a little lower than Ron Paul in terms of unfavorability.
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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by fbi10 View Post
    whoever the nominee is for the GOP, it doesn't matter because Obama will be the easiest person to run against. If anything, the GOP primaries will be harder. Palin has a good shot to win it and she would be a great president and certainly better than the president we have right now but at the end of the day, the nominee (if it's not another "mccain") can stream roll through Obama.
    Sarah Palin = Kathrine Harris. The GOP will never nominate Palin for president. Don't even think about it. She isn't presidential material. She has next to no experience and even less intelligence. Her major attraction is her message to the masses "I'm as stupid as you are and I can be president." Does that message resonate with a lot of people? Sure, but the people on the upper side of the IQ mean aren't going to vote for her.

    The GOP cannot win a presidential election without support of the mainstream GOP (not Palainistas), without a significant number of crossover voters, Independent voters, on issue voters. Palin doesn't appeal to MOST voters and the GOP is well aware of it. At this point in time there the GOP is having a difficult time finding anyone dynamic and worthy.

    Obama is horrible and as much as I'd like for him to be primaried he won't be. Do you know why? Because the Democrats see a GOP so hosed up it can't find a candidate that won't step on his own johnson coming out of the gate. Think about that - As bad is Obama is, and he's bad, the GOP still can't find anyone who galvanizes most Americans.










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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Ron Paul is not young, but he is in far better health than McCain.
    WTF does McCain have ot do with a bet on Ron paul winning the election?

    If he drops from a heart attack than it probably wouldn't be a natural condition.
    So you know his cholesterol levels? His triglycerides?

    You've said some erally stupid **** around here, but this is the dumbest thing you have ever said. I mean really and truly retarded. Sig-worthy in it's stupidity.

    He's 76. If he dies of a heart attack, it's almost a certainty it was a natural condition.

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    Re: Romney, Palin Lead Reduced GOP Field for 2012

    Bachmann and Palin both stumping. I love it! The GOP is doing it's damndest not to push a serious candidate. How many more do we need to get "Bridesmaid's?"

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