The $100 Million Health Care Vote?

MrVicchio · 11-19-09, 04:23 PM

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ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports:

What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?

Here’s a case study.

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)

Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.

How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.

The $100 Million Health Care Vote? - The Note

Shocking.

Strucky · 11-19-09, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrVicchio

The $100 Million Health Care Vote? - The Note

Shocking.

I would say that I'm shocked.....But this seems to be common practice now.

Redress · 11-19-09, 04:28 PM

Got a source more reliable than a blog?

MrVicchio · 11-19-09, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Redress

Got a source more reliable than a blog?

Le sigh...

I posted this in BN didn't I... Damn it... do not post after waking up Vic.

Mods, can you move this please.

Also, Redress, can you counter what the "blog" says or not?

CaptainCourtesy · 11-19-09, 05:18 PM

Moderator's Warning:

Moved to BN - Blogs.

American · 11-20-09, 08:30 AM

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November 19, 2009 3:03 PM
ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports:

What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?
Here’s a case study.
On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”
The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”
I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.
In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)
Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.
How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.

This is what it costs and likely more to pass this POS. And with 34 hours to read it and 10 hours of debate on Saturday, we're getting quality **** to be sure.

smartin · 11-20-09, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by American

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This is what it costs and likely more to pass this POS. And with 34 hours to read it and 10 hours of debate on Saturday, we're getting quality **** to be sure.

Typical. Does not surprise me.

smartin · 11-20-09, 09:09 AM

I saw this on another board and thought I would share it.

"Apparently, we're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, all to be financed by a country that's broke."

Erod · 11-20-09, 09:16 AM

The scariest thing is that if the Congress and Obama manage to pass this massively unpopular piece of garbage.....violence may begin to ensue.

To abjectly force, with barely any real thought or debate, a socialized healthcare tax and program on Americans who clearly do not want this, let alone want to pay for this......

Forget the elections, some of these politicians are playing with their own lives. People aren't going to just sit around and take this forever. This is exactly the type of dismissive governmental action that led to the Declaration of Independence. The founders would puke if they saw what we're doing today.

The Prof · 11-20-09, 09:30 AM

saturday---supposedly---is the "big day" to see if reid can get 60 to the floor

that is, it's not that big a day

saturday we'll all learn if the party enjoys the 100% solidarity required simply to start the debate

that is, does he have the 60 he needs merely to get to the floor

that is, NOT passage

that is, he's not sure he can even begin

nelson, landrieu and lincoln are the 3

that is, even if he can get on the expensive carpet, he's FAR from passage

lieberman, bayh and pryor have all savaged the PO

stiff neck nelson will not allow the watering down of stupak

saturday---supposedly---is the big day

either the monstrosity dies then

or a little later

patience

that is, if reid proceeds on saturday like he says he will

how many deadlines has he missed

11-19-09, 04:28 PM	#3
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11-20-09, 09:16 AM	#9
Erod Professor Join Date: Aug 2008 Last Seen: Today 04:59 PM Posts: 1,408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 551 Times in 364 Posts Lean: Conservative	Re: The $100 Million Health Care Vote? The scariest thing is that if the Congress and Obama manage to pass this massively unpopular piece of garbage.....violence may begin to ensue. To abjectly force, with barely any real thought or debate, a socialized healthcare tax and program on Americans who clearly do not want this, let alone want to pay for this...... Forget the elections, some of these politicians are playing with their own lives. People aren't going to just sit around and take this forever. This is exactly the type of dismissive governmental action that led to the Declaration of Independence. The founders would puke if they saw what we're doing today.
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11-20-09, 09:30 AM	#10
The Prof Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Last Seen: Today 10:40 PM Posts: 2,670 Thanks: 86 Thanked 357 Times in 269 Posts	Re: The $100 Million Health Care Vote? saturday---supposedly---is the "big day" to see if reid can get 60 to the floor that is, it's not that big a day saturday we'll all learn if the party enjoys the 100% solidarity required simply to start the debate that is, does he have the 60 he needs merely to get to the floor that is, NOT passage that is, he's not sure he can even begin nelson, landrieu and lincoln are the 3 that is, even if he can get on the expensive carpet, he's FAR from passage lieberman, bayh and pryor have all savaged the PO stiff neck nelson will not allow the watering down of stupak saturday---supposedly---is the big day either the monstrosity dies then or a little later patience that is, if reid proceeds on saturday like he says he will how many deadlines has he missed

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