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Old 10-07-09, 09:58 AM   #61
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Re: Dems: GOP rooting against America

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Just curious:
How far into The Obama's tenure will you contninue to blame Bush?
At what point do you lay the blame at The Obama's feet?
2 or 3 years. And retrospective analysis will reveal to what extent things were Obama's fault and to what extent they were Bush's fault. As it is, I don't feel bad about blaming Bush for the things Bush did and the things that are his fault. If it were a simple matter of being able to ask for the lost money, time, reputation, and lives that went into the War in Iraq, and if Obama was refusing to do that out of stubborness and pride, then I would place the lord's share of the blame on him instead of Bush -- but since Bush orientated the country in a certain direction for eight years, and because it is impossible to retract that motion or re-set the course without difficulty, it is Bush's destiny to get blamed for the fall out of his policies.

Just not by Republicans.
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Old 10-07-09, 11:16 AM   #62
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2 or 3 years.
Assume The Obama has 2 full terms and is then replaced by a Republican.
Does that mean the Republicans get to blame The Obama for 2 or three years for the mess He made?

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...but since Bush orientated the country in a certain direction for eight years, and because it is impossible to retract that motion or re-set the course without difficulty, it is Bush's destiny to get blamed for the fall out of his policies.
Wait...
Bush messed thngs up SO bad... but you only expect The Obama to tackle the mess if it is "without difficulty"?

That's just a politically motivated cop-out, an excuse to continue the Bush policies while blaming Bush for them...
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Old 10-07-09, 11:41 AM   #63
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Assume The Obama has 2 full terms and is then replaced by a Republican.
Does that mean the Republicans get to blame The Obama for 2 or three years for the mess He made?
On what international/global scale has Obama "messed up" anything? Seems to me almost all of his efforts thus far have been to clean up the mess left by someone else.
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On what international/global scale has Obama "messed up" anything? Seems to me almost all of his efforts thus far have been to clean up the mess left by someone else.
Dont dodge the question.
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Re: Dems: GOP rooting against America

If and when President Obama effs things up the way Bush did, you'll have a point. Until then, the question is moot.
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If and when President Obama effs things up the way Bush did, you'll have a point. Until then, the question is moot.
Given that "messes things up" is an entirely subjective standard, I'll then take you answer to agree that the Republicans get to blame The Obama for 2 or three years for the mess He made.
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Given that "messes things up" is an entirely subjective standard, I'll then take you answer to agree that the Republicans get to blame The Obama for 2 or three years for the mess He made.
If and when President Obama effs things up the way Bush did, you'll have a point. Until then, the question is moot.

What part of If do you not understand?
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Assume The Obama has 2 full terms and is then replaced by a Republican.
Does that mean the Republicans get to blame The Obama for 2 or three years for the mess He made?

Of course they can. What if on the other hand nothing is FUBAR will Republicans give credit where credit is due?
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If and when President Obama effs things up the way Bush did, you'll have a point. Until then, the question is moot.

What part of If do you not understand?
What part of "Given that 'messes things up' is an entirely subjective standard" don't YOU get?
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Of course they can. What if on the hand nothing is FUBAR will Republicans give credit where credit is due?
Things beng FUBAR is subjective, and is determined those leveling the criticism.
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