Dems: GOP rooting against America

Ikari · 10-06-09, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteEU

Errr it was from 2000 to 2008.. what changed?

It wasn't from 2000 to 2008, even though some would like to have made that claim. Just as some would like to make that claim now. You can ask those whom believe it proper now while improper then "what changed". I opposed it in both circumstances.

The only thing that changed was the R went to a D and the obvious partisanship of many has been displayed. Those whom rallied against Bush now calling dissent against Obama as somehow unpatriotic or unAmerican are partisan hacks.

Captain America · 10-06-09, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Hopining Obama fails does not equal America failing.

Putting the olympics over the troops in A-stan?

That's "hoping America fails"

Obama is not "America"

True that. But it seems just like yesterday when the left was wanting our troops out of Iraq the right was screaming, "The left wants our troops to fail," or, "The left wants America to lose the war!" Or some other rhetoric like that. Or the left whining about GWB reading the Little Goat Book as the towers blazed.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot.

Gawd, we need some NEW political writers. This political drama is getting so predictable and boring. I am coming to think that there are more whackos than intelligent people these days. (But I know better.

)

Helte/2Skelter · 10-06-09, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth Detector

I have to laugh at the efforts to re-define what Socialist or Communist means or the efforts to suggest that the "pure" form has never been attempted.

Unfortunately for the Communist apologizers, there is no such thing as a "pure" form of political ideologies because you cannot ignore the HUMAN factor when it comes to such centralized systems which are why they fail so miserably.

I have to laugh at the attempts of Socialists to continue to re-invent Socialism in an effort to suggest that it is a better form of political/economic ideology which still has not been tried in its "pure" form.

Fortunately most of us live in the REAL world and have a collective memory of the epoch failure of such "feel good" social systems and can watch them in their current forms throughout the world fail.

What amazes me is how anyone with an education and modicum of intelligence about human behavior can continue to argue for such systems or even suggest that they can work.

Socialism and communism have indeed been redefined. They were redefined when "Communist states" (which is an oxy-moron) such as the USSR, China, etc. used them as a front to replace the capitalist elite with a coordinatorist elite. Real socialism has always been about giving control of the means of production to the working class and replacing capitalism. Communism is where a classless society is reached and the government has withered away.

Ideologies are well-defined. Did any of the usual suspects fit the definition of socialism or communism? Furthermore, there is nothing about socialism nor communism that suggests centralization. The implementation is not so clear, but I am not falling for the false definitions given by coordinatorists and capitalists that seems to pervade society when it comes to defining socialism and communism.

Harshaw · 10-06-09, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain America

True that. But it seems just like yesterday when the left was wanting our troops out of Iraq the right was screaming, "The left wants our troops to fail," or, "The left wants America to lose the war!" Or some other rhetoric like that.

Well, don't forget about the prominent Dems who had actually declared defeat.

disneydude · 10-07-09, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

Yea, I bet you never tried to undermine the war in Iraq...not even once.

How the hell could I undermine the war in Iraq?

Yes, I was against the war in Iraq from day one....but I never hoped or wrote that I hoped that we would fail. That would be ridiculous.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-07-09, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Helte/2Skelter

Is this necessary?

Sometimes for levity. When you see the god complex, sometimes it needs to be pointed out.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-07-09, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by disneydude

Rev:

Were you as outraged at how many we lost in Iraq when GWB attended the Beijing Olympics?

How many posts did you post about that?

Link?

Irrellevant.

What decision were troops waiting on being shot at while he attended? FAIL

However, I thought bush made a huge mistake attending the chinese olympics, for numerous reasons.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-07-09, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain America

True that. But it seems just like yesterday when the left was wanting our troops out of Iraq the right was screaming, "The left wants our troops to fail," or, "The left wants America to lose the war!" Or some other rhetoric like that. Or the left whining about GWB reading the Little Goat Book as the towers blazed.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot.

Gawd, we need some NEW political writers. This political drama is getting so predictable and boring. I am coming to think that there are more whackos than intelligent people these days. (But I know better.

)

Maybe some, Not me. My only contention with the left stemmed from calling troops nazi's, murders, rapists, drug addicts, war criminals, and on and on and on...

I never had a problem with "I don't think we need to be there and should pull out"..... It's when the lie and the attacks that started, that I would take umberance to.

disneydude · 10-07-09, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Irrellevant.

What decision were troops waiting on being shot at while he attended? FAIL

However, I thought bush made a huge mistake attending the chinese olympics, for numerous reasons.

Irrelevant? Because it doesn't neatly fit within your selective outrage?

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-07-09, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by disneydude

Irrelevant? Because it doesn't neatly fit within your selective outrage?

go serve your country then get back and accuse me of "selective outrage", counselor....

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