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Scarecrow Akhbar · 08-05-09, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC

So you're arguing that healthcare shouldn't be a right,

Healthcare isn't a right.

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and are then saying that the dems proposals on this would not make healthcare a right?

When the Democrats wreck the US economy to provided rationed services to some of the population, health care will still not be a right. It will, however, have become an immortal entitlement.

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The proposed system is not any different from Medicare

Medicare is bankrupt, or will be soon.

So you want the same system that went bankrupt on the small scale to be imposed on the large scale so it can still be bankrupt.

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The fact that those two things are the same doesn't mean that the systems are interchangeable.

They both won't work, so it doesn't really matter if they're interchangeable or not.

Scarecrow Akhbar · 08-05-09, 08:29 PM

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Because the uninsured health needs of the 40 million Americans who are not insured are draining the resources needed by the rest of us. It would be much, much cheaper to have everyone enrolled in some plan.

It would be even cheaper to tell doctors they don't have to treat people who can't pay.

Fairer, too.

And I haven't even addressed the ridiculousness of that 40,000,000 figure.

Next you'll be telling us there's only 12 million illegal invaders in this country, but 6 million homeless.

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And despite your ridiculous assertions about government not running programs properly, Medicare and the VA are efficient systems which are much appreciated by those served by them.

Medicare is going bankrupt, and nobody "appreciates" it, just like the VA hospital system.

RightinNYC · 08-05-09, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar

Healthcare isn't a right.

Thank god you're here to repeat what I said 10 posts ago. I had almost forgotten my stance on this until you reminded me.

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When the Democrats wreck the US economy to provided rationed services to some of the population, health care will still not be a right. It will, however, have become an immortal entitlement.

Thank god you're here to repeat what I said 10 posts ago. I had almost forgotten my stance on this until you reminded me.

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Medicare is bankrupt, or will be soon.

Thank god you're here to repeat what I said 10 posts ago. I had almost forgotten my stance on this until you reminded me.

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So you want the same system that went bankrupt on the small scale to be imposed on the large scale so it can still be bankrupt.

If you read this thread and conclude that that's my position, then you are an absolute failure at reading comprehension.

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They both won't work, so it doesn't really matter if they're interchangeable or not.

Thanks, this was very relevant and helpful.

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