Arch Enemy

I have been realizing that many people cite Jihad Watch as a form of credible academic source, but I would like to take this opportunity to draw line between Jihad Watch and it's umbrella foundation.

David Horowitz's article from FrontPage Magazine 1997.

New Left issssss?

It always intrigued me that Robert Spencer's patron (David Horowitz) went from a New Leftist/ Marxist to a conservative highly interested in Jihadists.

Just a curiosity

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mikhail

maybe he changed his mind.

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chevydriver1123

The only change that these statists liberals made in order to become Neocons is that they traded their Hammer and Sickle for the Ax and sticks. They still support government growth and government in people's daily lives just for a different reason.

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Arch Enemy

I thought once a Marxist always a Marxist, or maybe I was reading too much into the criticisms of Obama during his campaign.


Haha

Anyways his more personal group "Discover The Networks" boasts the following
This is where the connects Islamic Jihadists with Leftists. Haha which is funny on multiple levels.

Overly, I think he's an opportunist/careerist more than anything.

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The silenced majority

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The left has been trying to dilute our society & culture for decades via political correctness and multiculturalism.

The only religion that they seem to be OK with is Islam. Probably because the core aspect of Islam is anti-liberty, just as the core aspects of modern leftism is.

Gardener

I would be eager to hear ALL his views before calling him a conservative, myself. How does he view women's rights? Gay rights? The Economy? The Environment?

As far as the human rights angle is concerned, since Islamism represents the very antithesis of liberalism, then those who fight it are taking a liberal position -- no matter how they define themselves. Similarly, Those who act as apologists for Islamismn are taking an extremist conservative approach, and again, this no matter how they define themselves.

That a good portion of the far left is just too stupid and conformist to realize what it is supporting tacitly through all the bullsh!t offered up by way of apologia doesn't necessarily mean that those who stand up to Islamism are conservative -- not uless the word conservative now means the desire to conserve liberal principles, which, indeed, may be the crux of a paradigm shift in how we view the terms.

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Arch Enemy

Not entirely sure. Most of his writings seem to be from his more "radical" past.
I have to disagree with you there. Islamists obtain office through Democratic processes if it is available to them (Turkey, Indonesia, Jordan, and let us not forget that the Muslim Brotherhood participates in Egyptian politics)

Whenever there is no opportunity for a Democratic process, then there is violence. You usually find the most extreme of the militant Islamist organizations juxtapose to Western supported, heavily entrenched, regimes.

I think we have to come to realize that what is "Conservative" in the United States is absolutely not what is "Conservative" in Israel or Yemen (for examples, I am not too keen on Asian, nor African politics)

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chevydriver1123

In regards to Turkey, their constitution has various safe guards to prevent that country from becoming a Iran or a Saudi Arabia.

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Arch Enemy

Haha well nothing can look like Iran or Saudi Arabia (even though Saudi Arabia is slowly reforming... and their slowness makes the U.S. Congress look like roadrunners).

Anywho,
It's not just the Constitution as it's the Kemalist concept and the ethos that surrounds Attaturk.

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lizzie

If I am not mistaken, I think I remember reading that Horowitz's parents were communist party members, and if that's the case, he probably does have legitimate insight into the movement, and quite possibly rebelled, just as many of us rebel against our parents' religious ideology or other beliefs.