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Old 11-18-09, 12:06 PM   #21
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

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Ah, well, many folks in the media stick their feet in their mouths from time to time. It happens.
Okay, so someone fouled up, apology accepted, let's get back to business.
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Old 11-18-09, 03:18 PM   #22
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

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Yea but there is a big difference in these 2 cases.

In this MSNBC case all I can see is they used a false picture to garner some sort of negative image or make ridicule on Palin. I dont understand why they would do that, just showing her CBS interview would be enough , we are talking about the the Palin train wreck after all.

But in Fox News case, the footage it self was not false. It was real, but from another event. What they tried to do there was to prove their political point that the protest they were reporting on was "HUGE" and had lots of people, and in reality that was not true. So what Fox News was caught doing was at best bending the truth and at worst out right lieing about factual events.

While both are wrong the difference between them are crucial if you ask me.

I have no doubt that media posts incorrect images quite often, but the problem comes when those incorrect images are used to prove a political point and mask the truth. Mistakes do happen, but hiding behind "ups mistake" constantly is not a mistake.. it is a pattern.

That is what Fox News has a history of doing.. everything from this Hanity case, to showing Rep Conyers picture in a story about Rep Jefferson's indictment, to mistakenly labelling people like Foley and Stanford as Democrats.. heck even McCain at one point. Once or twice is a mistake, 3 and more times is a pattern or total incompetence.
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And I would submit that I think your view on this might be skewed by your political preferences. I think it's equally plausible to look at Hannity's error as a simple file photo mixup by some 19 year old intern, as compared to Ratigan's error, which could be seen as a deliberate attempt to smear.
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

Well, the reality is that the intelligent people never noticed MSNBC using fake pix.

Intelligent people don't watch an alleged news network that deliberately manipulates images to create false accusations of racism, as MSNBC has done before.
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Intelligent people don't watch an alleged news network that deliberately manipulates images to create false accusations of racism, as MSNBC has done before.
Damnit. I need to cut that out.
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Old 11-18-09, 05:11 PM   #25
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

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Ah, well, many folks in the media stick their feet in their mouths from time to time. It happens.
Okay, so someone fouled up, apology accepted, let's get back to business.
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Fair enough for this case.

I don't recall MSNBC even acknowledging, let alone apologizing for it's deliberate injection of race into an incident during the summer's townhall scenes by focusing on the guns a man was wearing at one event and raising questions about anti-Obama racism.....when the the fact was revealed....on Fox....that the wide shot of the man with the guns showed him to be blacker than the president.

THAT was typical of MSNBC's urge to promote their vision, not deliver news.

Only fools watch MSNBC.
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

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And for the last 3 years you Sir Lion have used every trick in the book to avoid debating anything on these boards. Time and time again you have answered posts on Fox News and pretty much everything else, with dismissals, refusing to accept evidence based on what site posted it, avoidance, attempting to derail the subject and when everything else fails you have resorted to personal attacks. You have yet to actually debate anything.

I and others claim to have evidence of bias on Fox News. We provide evidence of this bias, including in the words of the freaking owners, and what do you do? Attack the source and attack the person pointing out the facts. You have yet to disprove the facts in any way or form.



You have not debunked anything Sir Lion.. to debunk something you need to actually debate the subject and come with facts that to counter the complaints. You have not done so yet.

Fox News is and always has been the mouth piece of the RNC. It is biased as hell through out its coverage and is more an entertainment channel than a news channel. You can get ample proof of the bias of Fox News by just watching the damn channel and if that is not enough there is plenty of evidence on the net. Hell John Stewart on the Daily Show has time and time again caught Fox News in falsehoods, miss representations and out right hypocrisy.

A good example.. Under Bush people demonstrating the US government because of the war or anything else, were violent leftists who were a danger to the US. Under Obama when someone protests the US government they are "average god loving Americans" and "True Americans"... Funny how that changed over night.
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in 99% of your posts there is nothing to debate because you are such an anti american partisan hack

most of us probably miss the 1% as we can only take so much of your BS
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

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Ah, well, many folks in the media stick their feet in their mouths from time to time. It happens.
Okay, so someone fouled up, apology accepted, let's get back to business.
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Totally off topic but you remind me of this chick named Celeste that I used to know.
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I will throw you a bone

in 99% of your posts there is nothing to debate because you are such an anti american partisan hack
Okay prove it. Being critical of the US right is not being an anti American btw.....
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And I would submit that I think your view on this might be skewed by your political preferences. I think it's equally plausible to look at Hannity's error as a simple file photo mixup by some 19 year old intern, as compared to Ratigan's error, which could be seen as a deliberate attempt to smear.
It doesn't work that way. Interns at news organizations do not make creative decisions by themselves. The footage Hannity tried to pass off as Bachman's rally had to be ordered up from the news library, probably by an Associate Producer. It had to be matched into the package by an editor, then approved by a producer and screened by a Senior Producer. It was no accident, no mixup, it was done on purpose, and provides insight to the lack of professional integrity at the Fox operation.
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Re: MSNBC Host Apologizes For Using Fake Palin Pics

which piece was serious which one was a joke? Hannitys piece had the footage marked as earlier. Speaking of racism wasnt it fox and friends that put up the edited photos of two jewish reporters that made them look nefarious? They darkened their eyes, accentuated their noses, yellowed their teeth. Just this week gregg jarrett used stock footage from a mccain/palin rally from 2008 to illustrate sarah palin drawing huge crowds from her book tour.
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