sazerac

Perhaps if the president wasn't so unbelievably bad at explaining things there wouldn't be any confusion.

Or go on Fox News and explain it to the viewers. What a whiner!

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Devil505

Yeah....If only Obama was as articulate, honest & well spoken as GW Bush.

sazerac

It's always has to be about Bush with you all.

Obama deserves what he's getting for going about all this with no concern for the other side and what it wants.

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Devil505

The other side wants to kill any HC reform & protect their insurance company masters.
We American people elected Obama in large part on his promise to reform HC & we will not allow the few to dictate to the many anymore.

unbiased

Re: Abortion

While it is correct, no wording exists that even mentions abortion in the proposed bill. This is deceiving because, the supreme count has ruled unless specifically forbidden, abortion is permitted.

This bring us to the Hyde Amendment. This bill does forbid federal funding of abortions. However, it does not apply to this new healthcare bill as it only applies to Medicaid.

The way I see it, this bill will clearly allow federal funding of abortion.

Where am I mistaken? This issue looks pretty clear to me.

American

I think they've been stroking ...er, their own "egos".

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Lakryte

WRONG.
Republicans Offer Health-Care Plan - WSJ.com
There is one Republican healthcare plan. There is also tort reform, which would effect healthcare insurance companies.
Republicans have also proposed amendments that would prevent rationing care (which have been turned down)

Have you honestly not heard of these other proposals? Or are you just ignoring them so you can stick to the "party of no" rhetoric?

Exactly.

DrunkenAsparagus

Firstly, Obama has failed to show me any evidence that he is as honest as these three men. There are honest politicians, but they are few and far between. Secondly, it doesn't matter if Obama wants to cut waste. You can't just will problems away, especially not with big government. He may intend to cut waste, but to paraphrase Milton Friedman, never judge government action by its intentions instead of its results.

Devil505

Have a link to the actual plan itself? (or is it like the GOP budget...an empty binder)
If the GOP really WANTS to reform HC...Why did we hear nothing from them for the last 12 years?
The GOP isn't FOR anything...Just AGAINST anything the Dems offer, regardless of whether it's good for the country or not.

What we all heard was Sen. James DeMint tell his GOP buddies that they can Break Obama over HC reform....that it will be his Waterloo.

How about us American taxpayers??..Does the GOP care anything about us??

Answer is NO!

Lakryte

Well first off, under Bush medicare was reformed by Bush...but Why does that matter? Whether or not Republicans spoke up about healthcare in the past doesn't negate the fact that they are speaking up now.
*sigh* Get your facts straight. The GOP is of course against the Democrats on most issues and the Democrats are against the GOP on most issues as well. (hence the two parties) I can now clearly see that you refuse to believe the GOP has offered a plan because it goes against your own partisan rhetoric idea of "party of no". Well guess what, you are WRONG. So deal with it and put yourself back into reality. Your arrogance annoys me.
The plan exists. I hate to break it to you. It is called the "Patients' Choice Act". Here is a link to Paul Ryan talking about it:
Patients' Choice Act
Some articles and interviews talking about the GOP plan are also on the site, you can click the links on the page above and watch the video.
Here is a 15 page official description of the plan:
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/inde...7-8b479a10affc

You want the actual bill? Well I can give you that too. I don't know why you couldn't do the work yourself and find it...oh wait...I forgot...you are entitled to receive the bill from somebody else, right?

Actual bill H.R. 2520:
H.R. 2520: Patients' Choice Act (GovTrack.us)
Click "Full text" to get the bill.

All you have to do to find out that this bill exists is too look it up. Its no harder to figure out this bill exists than to figure out the moon exists. There is so much information about the bill I find it shocking you can't come to grips with the reality that it exists. Not only that, but it has existed since MAY 20TH 2009. So the "party of no" rhetoric is, to put it crudely, BS.

WAKE UP. You can disagree with Republicans, but to say they offer no alternative is flat out ignorant and not true. Watch another news station besides MSNBC. Try fox even.

Now will you admit you were wrong or just ignore this entire half of the post as usual?
You think the DEMOCRATS care about the American taxpayers when they propose a plan that will increase taxes, but the Republicans don't when they propose a plan that will provide tax cuts?

Do you honestly think anyone, Republican or Democrat, in Washington truly and honestly cares about us over him/herself?