Page 4 of 17 FirstFirst ... 2345614 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 164
Like Tree59Likes

Thread: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

  1. #31
    Devourer of Poor Children
    DrunkenAsparagus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    DC
    Last Seen
    06-19-14 @ 06:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    4,496
    Likes Received
    1880 times
    Likes Given
    3271

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    No economist (on either side) said we could fix our economic problems "On The Cheap" or overnight.
    While government spending's stimulative effect on the economy is debatable, the notion that the new costs of Obama's spending can be completely absorbed by the rich, as you and he claim, is absurd.

  2. #32
    Guru
    akyron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Plano
    Last Seen
    02-04-14 @ 12:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,062
    Likes Received
    694 times
    Likes Given
    639

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    95% of us average taxpayer will pay less than we did under Bush ?
    You obviously have not read any of the recent bills in congress.

    Oh and Obama is Bush. Just with an X multiplier.

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756"]The Obama Deception[/ame]


    Patients First: What Is In The Bill?


    I am for reform. This is not reform. This is a government takover just like the auto industry and the banks.

    If the government was interested in reform they would take the best healthcare optioned most successful insurance company and analyze it, make improvements on, then duplicate and make it available in the medicaid and medicare system. Just remove the 65 age limit and done. Tax welfare for the payments as necessary. Thats milk thats already spilled.
    Last edited by akyron; 08-22-09 at 07:53 PM.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/marvel-war-of-heroes/id536478373?mt=8
    iphone or ipad game

    Use Referral code bfg861256 for a free rare card.

  3. #33
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 08:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512
    Likes Received
    315 times
    Likes Given
    212

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    While government spending's stimulative effect on the economy is debatable, the notion that the new costs of Obama's spending can be completely absorbed by the rich, as you and he claim, is absurd.
    Neither of us have claimed any such thing. That may be how Fox News reported it, but it is not true.

    Here's what I recommend:

    Watch Fox News to get the GOP spin

    Watch MSNBC to get the Democrat's spin

    split the difference & you are near the truth & then.....

    Turn on CSPAN & make up your own mind.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 08:00 PM.

  4. #34
    Devourer of Poor Children
    DrunkenAsparagus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    DC
    Last Seen
    06-19-14 @ 06:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    4,496
    Likes Received
    1880 times
    Likes Given
    3271

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Neither of us have claimed any such thing. That may be how Fox News reported it, but it is not true.
    You're sh*tting me

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    95% of us average taxpayer will pay less than we did under Bush & we aren't paying the $4.00/gallon +...TAX that we paid when the Repubs ran things. Youi never hear these truths from Fox though...Do you?

  5. #35
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 08:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512
    Likes Received
    315 times
    Likes Given
    212

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    While government spending's stimulative effect on the economy is debatable, the notion that the new costs of Obama's spending can be completely absorbed by the rich, as you and he claim, is absurd.
    To which I said:
    "95% of us average taxpayer will pay less than we did under Bush & we aren't paying the $4.00/gallon +...TAX that we paid when the Repubs ran things. Youi never hear these truths from Fox though...Do you?"

    To which you responded:


    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    You're sh*tting me
    With my above quote?? Show me where I (or Obama) claimed that all his spending would ...."be completely absorbed by the rich"......??????

    (Sorry....Just sounds like Fox News SPIN to me)
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 08:27 PM.

  6. #36
    Professor
    Lakryte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    2,060
    Likes Received
    783 times
    Likes Given
    561

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    First of all, if you are using an NBC article as your source for an article regarding FOX news I hope you realize it will be biased. Fox and NBC are ALWAYS at each other's necks.

    But lets look at this "misinformation":

    On the issue of illegal immigrants being covered, check these sources:
    Will Health Insurance Reform Cover Undocumented Immigrants?
    Here are the facts:

    * Democrats intentionally left gaping loopholes in the healthcare bill that will allow illegal immigrants to receive taxpayer-funded benefits.
    * The bill contains no verification mechanism to ensure that illegal immigrants do not apply for benefits. In fact, Democrats rejected an amendment to close this loophole.
    * The bill leaves open the possibility that if one citizen family member is eligible for affordability credits, then the whole family including illegal immigrant family members, are also eligible for the credits.

    Ranking Member Lamar Smith said, “The proposed healthcare scheme could force the American people to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants. This is another reason to oppose it.

    Hmm...stupid FOX viewers, how DARE they question Obama....

    On to Abortion:
    Does House Healthcare Bill Fund Abortion? Depends on Whom You Ask - God & Country (usnews.com)
    The question revolves largely around an amendment to the House healthcare bill that was adopted by the Energy and Commerce Committee last Thursday. The amendment prohibits federal funds from explicitly subsidizing abortion in the private healthcare plans to be offered through the health insurance exchange (read it here). But it doesn't prevent "the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage" of abortion.
    Oh, those STUPID Fox viewers! What idiots!

    Public option can lead to full government control:
    You do realize that this is possible...dont you? The bill doesn't have to specifically say that a single-payer system will be emplemented. It can still happen via competition. And private insurance companies can't print their own money or offer free care now, can they?
    Oh, and I guess Obama changed his mind within a year. He said that he was a proponent of a single payer system. He then said "We may not get there immediately". Hmm...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE"]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]
    Again, those FOX viewers really are incredibly stupid for thinking these things!

    Rationing care:
    Senate Committee Blocks Anti-Rationing Amendments The Foundry
    Amendments designed to prevent this were rejected. Nearly every country with government run healthcare has problems with rationing care, notably GB and Canada.
    How can Fox viewers be so STUPID?



    There are so many "stupid" people out there, don't you agree?




    Well I guess I'm one of them.
    Last edited by Lakryte; 08-22-09 at 08:32 PM.

  7. #37
    Devourer of Poor Children
    DrunkenAsparagus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    DC
    Last Seen
    06-19-14 @ 06:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    4,496
    Likes Received
    1880 times
    Likes Given
    3271

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You said: With my above quote?? Show me where I (or Obama) claimed that all his spending would ...."be completely absorbed by the rich"......??????

    (Sorry....Just sounds like Fox News SPIN to me)
    I said NEW spending. You claimed that 95% of people were getting a tax cut. This means the rich would have to pay for the spending increases or Obama and you are wrong about 95% of the taxpayers getting a tax cut.

  8. #38
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 08:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512
    Likes Received
    315 times
    Likes Given
    212

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I said NEW spending. You claimed that 95% of people were getting a tax cut. This means the rich would have to pay for the spending increases or Obama and you are wrong about 95% of the taxpayers getting a tax cut.
    Not true at all. If you listen to Obama's plan, much wasteful spending will be done away with & much of the new spending will provide new/renewed jobs which will (intern) create more tax money for the government at a lower tax rate for people earning less than $250,000.00/year. (my 40 yr old daughter will be working as a public school teacher again this year due to government money made available to pay her salary....& paying taxes that she wouldn't be paying if her job had been cut.)
    Show me where Obama or I say that the rich will pay for everything??

    Again....I say you're just "Spinning."
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 08:43 PM.

  9. #39
    Devourer of Poor Children
    DrunkenAsparagus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    DC
    Last Seen
    06-19-14 @ 06:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    4,496
    Likes Received
    1880 times
    Likes Given
    3271

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not true at all. If you listen to Obama's plan, much wasteful spending will be done away with & much of the new spending will provide new/renewed jobs which will (intern) create more tax money for the government at a lower tax rate for people earning less than $250,000.00/year. (my 40 yr old daughter will be working as a public school teacher again this year due to government money made available to pay her salary....& paying taxes that she wouldn't be paying if her job had been cut.)
    Show me where Obama or I say that the rich will pay for everything??
    And if you believe that the government can increase its scope to that degree and cut waste, you've been played. Politicians promise a lot of things

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc...blesforWeb.pdf

  10. #40
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 08:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512
    Likes Received
    315 times
    Likes Given
    212

    Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    And if you believe that the government can increase its scope to that degree and cut waste, you've been played. Politicians promise a lot of things

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc...blesforWeb.pdf
    All politicians are not the same. Some actually are truthful. (Eisenhower & Truman pop into my mind.....& Churchill of course)
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-23-09 at 07:15 AM.

Page 4 of 17 FirstFirst ... 2345614 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •