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Old 08-20-09, 03:14 PM   #11
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

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Old 08-20-09, 04:43 PM   #12
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

Well . . .

It is pretty hard to believe that even if it's not in the legislation currently, it won't be extended to illegal immigrants in very swift order. The argument for it writes itself.
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Old 08-21-09, 10:50 AM   #13
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

Well, from the horse's mouth...

Watch this video from Politico.com where President Obama is a guest on Michael Smerconish's Conservative radio talkshow. He puts some of the myths to rest.
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Old 08-21-09, 06:35 PM   #14
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What angers me (both sides do it) is the screaming of misinformation and not informing with proof one way or the other.

Example of this is abortion. While (correct me if im wrong) the bill does not mention abortion being covered it also has nothing saying abortions are exempt from coverage. So while one side can scream one thing and the other something else how is anyone right/wrong?
You cannot use government money to fund abortions.

Hyde_amendment Hyde_amendment

You can go to the exact amendment and some links at the bottom of the article if Wiki bothers you.

By the way, I am a pro-life dem. I don't believe in abortion. So, I'm not trying to cast some liberal blanket over your eyes. I just don't see how the bill will be able to get around the Hyde Amendment.
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Well . . .

It is pretty hard to believe that even if it's not in the legislation currently, it won't be extended to illegal immigrants in very swift order. The argument for it writes itself.
It's not going to happen. An illegal immigrant bill would have to be discussed outside of this current bill for a number of reasons. How that is solved, I'm not sure, but the current bill, which works in all American's favor, does not support the health care of illegal immigrants. By the way, we already pay for them now when they go to the emergency room, right? It would be far more cost effective if they went to a primary care doctor instead on a public plan. Just saying. If that were to happen, I think we should all make them citizens and then get them into the tax loop to contribute to the system. We all know they aren't going away anytime soon and too many industries rely on low wage workers to keep costs down. I would be willing to pay a bit more for food in order to up their wages to something far more reasonable.

Anyway, not saying that is the solution, but, in terms of the current bill, there is nothing there that supports giving health care to illegals. To say otherwise and to propagate such a thing is to propagate a lie.
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He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.
But let's not forget that Bush did the most he could to ensure the safety of our country after the CIA warning.........He took the entire month before the attack off on vacation!!!

Yup...This country's first appointed President made us all proud!

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Yup...This country's first appointed President made us all proud!
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

MSNBC crying about media bias? Pot, meet kettle.
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

That actually makes a little sense on one level. Dear leader cannot stop talking about cable news. He must be watching it intently. Check out his last few speeches. He singles out and attacks cable news about four separate times in his recent sales pitches. Could that be the reason the administration is so spastic lately?
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

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He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.
Except, he only had an idea of the how, but not the where and when. Without the where and when, the how is irrelevant. It's like telling a local police department that a gang is going to hold up a c-store. If they don't know which c-store, then the information is useless.
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