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Old 09-01-09, 10:36 PM   #131
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

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No it won't do anything at all, except let the insurance companies make even more money. We all know that a public option is the only thing that will keep prices affordable.
How can you say this when you know private insurance companies will not be able to keep up with the government's prices? If this Administration has shown anything in the short time it has been in office its that they do not care how much they spend, which is a quality a business cannot afford to have. And when the private option does die, what happens then? We keep supporting all americans health with money we do not have?

As far as Fox news bias, it is overwhelming. I watch Fox, MSNBC, and CNN (ehhh occasionally) and they all have extreme bias, but Obama works hard enough to sell his plan that the Liberal media is just redundant. At least Fox gives an opposing argument and, while sometimes farfetched, has legitimate concerns with the current plan of reform.

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Old 09-02-09, 05:27 AM   #132
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read much?
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Old 09-02-09, 06:05 AM   #133
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How can you say this when you know private insurance companies will not be able to keep up with the government's prices?
Funny......Fedex, DHL & UPS have no problem competing with the USPS.
Besides, don't you think the insurance industry makes enough money elsewhere? Why do we have to pay them a profit for getting sick?
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read much?
You aren't seriously going to deny it....Are you???
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Old 09-02-09, 10:18 AM   #135
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Re: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

Oh how grand! Another idiot poll from the morons at NBC!

Guess what folks! If you believe that legalizing drugs would lead to higher rates of abuse you'd be wrong because.. guess what! Increasing abuse rates isn't in the bill!

You see everyone, nothing comes from a bill other than what is expressly written in the bill! To think otherwise is being misinformed.

Do you believe welfare policies will completely destroy a generation of families? NONSENSE! Not in the bill!
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Old 09-02-09, 12:34 PM   #136
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Funny......Fedex, DHL & UPS have no problem competing with the USPS.
Besides, don't you think the insurance industry makes enough money elsewhere? Why do we have to pay them a profit for getting sick?
Oh they don't? See, last I saw, USPS offers lower prices in some cases because of monopoly power granted by the government.

Ever tried sending a first-class letter with UPS? Yeah, didn't think so.

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FedEx and United Parcel Service (UPS) directly compete with USPS express mail and package delivery services, making nationwide deliveries of urgent letters and packages. Due to the postal monopoly, they are not allowed to deliver non-urgent letters and may not use U.S. Mail boxes at residential and commercial destinations. These services also deliver packages which are larger and heavier than what the USPS will accept.
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Oh they don't? See, last I saw, USPS offers lower prices in some cases because of monopoly power granted by the government.

Ever tried sending a first-class letter with UPS? Yeah, didn't think so.
So what???
My point is a valid one in that they do compete quite well with USPS in the area of parcels. Your point is meaningless.
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So what???
My point is a valid one in that they do compete quite well with USPS in the area of parcels. Your point is meaningless.
But what about regular first-class mail? It's a government monopoly and none of us have any choice but to use USPS for first-class mail, even if private companies could do it better.
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But what about regular first-class mail? It's a government monopoly and none of us have any choice but to use USPS for first-class mail, even if private companies could do it better.

But what about delivering pizza?
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Making toilet paper?
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Building jet fighters
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any one of the millions of other things that Fedex & UPS don't compete in???...We're talking about head to head parcel competition.....Nothing else........& they do compete quite successfully with the government in that field, right?
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But what about delivering pizza?
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Making toilet paper?
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Building jet fighters
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any one of the millions of other things that Fedex & UPS don't compete in???...We're talking about head to head parcel competition.....Nothing else........& they do compete quite successfully with the government in that field, right?
Because the government has a policy of not subsidizing USPS. In that way, it is kind of like an independent company, but let's not fool ourselves. USPS gets help from its monopoly status on first-class mail.

So why does UPS still succeed despite that? They prey on government inefficiencies and because that service is not directly subsidized. Directly subsidize it so that UPS cannot compete with the rates, and UPS and FedEX will go out of business.
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