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Old 09-18-08, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The American Media vs. Hugo Chavez

The mainstream American media has consistently engaged in biased vilification of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Hugo Chavez is portrayed as a dictatorial tyrant in U.S. media outlets. In reality, Chavez is far more democratic than George Bush is. Unlike the case of George Bush's ascencion in 2000, Chavez legitimately won his presidential election: http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2020.pdf

Chavez is typically presented as a dictator because of his unsuccesful attempt to extend presidential term limits, which the American media portrayed as an egotistical move by an authoritarian tyrant. But how can it be seriously claimed that such a move is a serious blow to democracy? A referendum was held on the issue, thereby making Chavez and Venezuela greater supporters of democracy than the United States. The U.S. does not hold national referendums. It relies on unaccountable elected officials to push through their policies of statism.

Moreover, just how is it anti-democratic for citizens to vote for and elect their preferred candidate as often as they please, as opposed to a system which limits the candidate field? The democratic system is a far better check on tyranny than more tyranny.

Much attention has been focused on Chavez's refusal to renew the license of RCTV, which the American media portrays as a news agency that was "critical" of him, according to the Associated Press. CNN reported that RCTV would be shut down because "Chavez is not a big fan of it." In reality, RCTV was not simply a "political critic" of him; they actively supported and encouraged the 2002 coup attempt of him. A news agency openly promotes the overthrow of a democratically elected leader, and when their license is not renewed (five years later), they are portrayed as a persecuted martyr? In the U.S., such an activity would be punished by prison time and treason charges rather than five years of broadcasting time after the fact and an eventual lack of a license renewal.

The American media functions to promote propagana and anti-socialist sentiments have been a typical control mechanism that they have used over the years. Propaganda model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The mainstream American media has consistently engaged in biased vilification of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Hugo Chavez is portrayed as a dictatorial tyrant in U.S. media outlets. In reality, Chavez is far more democratic than George Bush is. Unlike the case of George Bush's ascencion in 2000, Chavez legitimately won his presidential election: http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2020.pdf

Chavez is typically presented as a dictator because of his unsuccesful attempt to extend presidential term limits, which the American media portrayed as an egotistical move by an authoritarian tyrant. But how can it be seriously claimed that such a move is a serious blow to democracy? A referendum was held on the issue, thereby making Chavez and Venezuela greater supporters of democracy than the United States. The U.S. does not hold national referendums. It relies on unaccountable elected officials to push through their policies of statism.

Moreover, just how is it anti-democratic for citizens to vote for and elect their preferred candidate as often as they please, as opposed to a system which limits the candidate field? The democratic system is a far better check on tyranny than more tyranny.

Much attention has been focused on Chavez's refusal to renew the license of RCTV, which the American media portrays as a news agency that was "critical" of him, according to the Associated Press. CNN reported that RCTV would be shut down because "Chavez is not a big fan of it." In reality, RCTV was not simply a "political critic" of him; they actively supported and encouraged the 2002 coup attempt of him. A news agency openly promotes the overthrow of a democratically elected leader, and when their license is not renewed (five years later), they are portrayed as a persecuted martyr? In the U.S., such an activity would be punished by prison time and treason charges rather than five years of broadcasting time after the fact and an eventual lack of a license renewal.

The American media functions to promote propagana and anti-socialist sentiments have been a typical control mechanism that they have used over the years. Propaganda model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Fact check fails.

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But how can it be seriously claimed that such a move is a serious blow to democracy?
If It is not constitutional, who does ever about democracy?

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1, A referendum was held on the issue, 2.thereby making Chavez and Venezuela greater supporters of democracy than the United States.
1. does not guarantee to the conclusion 2. unless you know what was THE referendum

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The U.S. does not hold national referendums. It relies on unaccountable elected officials to push through their policies of statism.
We hold the Constitution. The system of checks and balances. Fact check fails.


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Moreover, just how is it anti-democratic for citizens to vote for and elect their preferred candidate as often as they please, as opposed to a system which limits the candidate field?
It is very democratic. The Constitution is not. It puts limits on demos.

Etc., etc.,

All the above does not even matter as much as the fact that Hugo has made a number of actions and statements you are happily avoiding to mention.
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Re: The American Media vs. Hugo Chavez

besides the media allowed us to listen to Hugo, it is not like Putin with his Russian... it is a straight forward case, not to much media can do..
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Re: The American Media vs. Hugo Chavez

I actually agree ive read several things about chavez that are just not true.Im not a supporter of him but the is a very strange over interest in his affairs.
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Then why doesn't President Bust just admit that the U.S. does not practice democracy, in that case?
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I actually agree ive read several things about chavez that are just not true.Im not a supporter of him but the is a very strange over interest in his affairs.
That MAY NOT be true. the media likes things that are not true, but then you have your overal impression.

I have heard a lot of weirds things from you, but I am glad you are not a supprter of him, the opposite would not be even weird.
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Then why doesn't President Bust just admit that the U.S. does not practice democracy, in that case?
Because he never had a chance of me imposing such a question on him.
He has received liberal education that practices the idea of democracy which does not have roots in the declaration/constitution.

as long as he is not in the position of hugo and the constitution puts checks on him why would anybody care? He will be gone soon and another schmuck if I am typing tashah's expression correctly is going to take his place. Hopefully he will not be Hugo sympathizer Obama.


But even then All the above does not even matter as much as the fact that Hugo has made a number of actions and statements you are happily avoiding to mention.
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Re: The American Media vs. Hugo Chavez

Our media is way out of control.
The bias over the Georgia attack on South Ossetia and a Russian base was mind boggling.
McCain even gave us a battle cry. "We are all Georgians".

We are not all Georgians. We are Americans.
Georgians launch attacks on civilians and beat Jehovah's Witnesses.

Anyhow...

The case with Chavez is not very concerning.
If he had called Bush the devil in a press conference that would be one thing.
But for him to say that to the United Nations just made him World Moron Number 1.

The media bias is easilly explainable in this case and there is little indication of a conspiracy.
Chavez was begging for media bias. And American bias towards him as well.
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We are not all Georgians. We are Americans.
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G-d bless your soul my democratic political ''enemy''. And we are proud of being Americans

We are Americans! I am proud of you.
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But for him to say that to the United Nations just made him World Moron Number 1.
I cannot even believe you vote for democrats, when I see you supporting my point.

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All the above does not even matter as much as the fact that Hugo has made a number of actions and statements you are happily avoiding to mention.
Actually you have done a better job than I because i couldn't immediately single out an example.
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