PeteEU

Okay, we constantly hear on these boards that US media has a left wing bias.

Now my question is.. can anyone show me where some of the main networks show left wing bias?

And no criticizing Bush or a Republican is not showing left wing bias. And no that lame biased UCLA study on media bias does not cut it either. And no even mentioning left wing polices or the word socialist is not left wing bias.

What I am looking for is clear cut left wing bias along the lines of the way Fox News does bias.. Comments like the Terrorist fist jab, or promoting out right lies or twisting facts for political bias.

So do people have any examples of left wing media bias.

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galenrox

Did Bruce help bring down the Berlin Wall? - Music - MSNBC.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/we...ll&oref=slogin

And of course compare this:
News from The Associated Press
Iraqi Kurds block vote on election plan
US military deaths in Iraq war at 4,120
28 killed in twin suicide attacks in Iraqi city
Fugitive Saddam aide sees US troops gone by 2008
Some of the deadliest attacks in Iraq
Iraq opens contest to design new flag
A gentle descent to Baghdad's airport
US pleased, worried, by newfound Iraqi confidence
Kurdish rebels say abducted Germans in good health
Iraqi tribal chief wants more aid from Baghdad

to this:
Multi-National Force - Iraq
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 Baghdad National ERU, IA capture five suspected Special Groups criminals in separate operations
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 Suicide bomber targets city council member in northern Baghdad
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 MNF-W Marine dies of wounds (al Anbar)
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 MND-N Soldier attacked during ongoing operations
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain suspected Special Groups criminals, seize cache in Karadah
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Separate attacks kill 12, injure 17 in Mosul
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Coalition forces capture explosives cell leader
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 IA, MND-B Soldiers, local citizen take weapons off streets of Baghdad
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 IA uncovers multiple caches north of Suwayrah
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 First Iraqi battalion completes Warfighter Training (Taji)
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Karkh Club Gym re-opens after recent refurbishment
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize caches, detain suspected criminals in Rashid
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Concerned citizens turn in munitions, weapons (Baghdad)
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers seize cache, detain suspected criminal in Rashid
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Al-Qaeda cells disrupted, alleged leader detained (Baghdad)
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 Hundreds of new officers join Iraqi Army and Air Force (Rustamiyah)
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal leader in Khadamiya
Tuesday, 15 July 2008 ISF crack down on criminal activity in northern Iraq (Balad)
Monday, 14 July 2008 CMOC personnel deliver supplies to Basra hospital
Monday, 14 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain known criminal, locate mortar cache (Baghdad)
Monday, 14 July 2008 Istaqlal IPs graduate, join force
Monday, 14 July 2008 2 IPs killed, 9 injured in Karkh district blast
Monday, 14 July 2008 IA, MND-C Soldiers provide medical treatment to Juhaysh residents
Monday, 14 July 2008 MNF-W Marine dies of non-combat related incident (Fallujah)
Monday, 14 July 2008 Iraqi CSWAT teams capture two suspected Special Groups criminals in separate operations (Balad)
Monday, 14 July 2008 Coalition operations continue pressure on al-Qaeda (Baghdad)

Funny how none of the stories that show progress being made just so happen to not be considered newsworthy by the Associated Press! And this has been the same since last Fall, but yeah, maybe it's just a coincidence that nothing indicating progress has been newsworthy in the last 9 months.

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PeteEU

How does this show bias? Its an interesting article but other than that, how does it show left wing bias? Is it because its uses words like communist and socialist? Or that it does not conform with the widely held (especially among right wingers) that it was Reagan that single handed ended the cold war? Lets just say, you have to be pretty stupid to think that one man single handed ended the cold war, and not factor in many many issues from different layers of society and different countries that all contributed to the downfall of the wall and ending the cold war.

To use a right wing tactic for Fox News.. this is an opinion piece

How does this show bias other than you and many right wingers have a thing for the NYT and people who don't agree with you.

Seriously how does this show bias? That AP does not run a story about the Iraqi troops hitting down on criminals and potential terrorists, is some how bias against who? They also don't report bank robberies in India, muggings in Denmark, or white collar crime in Hull, UK.. does that make them bias against those places or issues?

And seriously, the news stories from the non AP site, are in the "who cares" category for the most part. AP does not report every petty robbery or crime in the US, does that mean they are anti American?

These 2 I remember reading in my local newspaper and seeing on the news over here. including CNN.

But again how does this show any bias for the left? At best its using judgement (not good or bad) on what stories are important and not. Unless you think its important to know that the Iraqi police is hitting down on organized crime or that some citizens do their civil duty and hand in some guns.. does every gun handed into the LAPD get plastered on the 9 o'clock news?

DarkWizard12

Rather: Bush Guard Memo Story "Accurate," Never Proven Not So --9/27/2005-- Media Research Center

Now, please show YOUR examples of right-wing media bias. BEcause, afterall, I assume that you made this thread in an attempt to show that Liberal bias does not exist yet, right-wing bias does(since, you did attack fox). So, link your examples.

6FeetofSole

There is clearly some liberal bias on MSNBC and there is clearly some conservative bias on Fox News, while ABC News and CNN try to dip their toes in each pool.

Now, I would say that the bias lies within the News Commentary shows, not the actual reporting of the news. So when you get the headlines from either Fox News or MSNBC, you are getting the closest thing you can get to unbiased news. But as soon as either O'Reilly or Olbermann shows up on your tube, the bias has begun.

PeteEU

No thats not what this thread is about. It is about exposing the left wing bias that everyone claims there is in US media. There are plenty of threads exposing the right wing bias of Fox News and others. Your attempt to change the subject is a classic right wing ploy.. so please spare me. Show me clear bias by ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS and others towards the left.

As for you link.

GWB's military record was never investigated by any media in any detail, and thanks to, I grant you, a serious cluster **** by CBS and Dan Rather, the whole issue was basicly taboo. Now was this cluster **** based on bias by CBS and Dan Rather against GWB or wanting to get out the story before others? Considering that CBS has no clear policy to favor the democrats, then I must conclude that either Dan Rather is biased or plain old stupid enough not to check sources as getting out the story took priority.

However that does not mean bias.. in fact I would claim, NOT investigating the obvious issues with his record, is in fact right wing bias by the media.. or fear of repercussion by the authorities.

Again, show us where the clear obvious left wing bias is in the mass media in the US. Give us examples, since you and others are the ones ranting about how left wing the US media world is.

Is there examples where a major news organisation has promoted the Democrats over Republicans or openly admitted favor for the left? Or examples where presenters have given easy questions to Democrats, but hounded Republicans?

Show us the examples.

DeeJayH

welcome to an exercise in futility
cant show something to somebody when they deny its existence

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DarkWizard12

Your the one that said Fox news had right-wing bias, not me. I ask for proof and you didn't give.
As for you link.
1. Define what you mean by "not in any detail".
2. lol, any proof of this speculation? The guy was a journalist for YEARS and was an ANCHORMAN for CBS. How the hell did he get that far by being stupid?
Openly admitted? Isn't that like asking the mafia members to admit being in the mafia? Of COURSE they are not going to admit it.

ah yes, Hey, you Americans out there reading this thread, how does the newsline sound: "Random EU-supporting guy debunks liberal-bias in media!". Do you think maddox's insult "detective dip****" would apply here?

so, I can't give you examples. Not because there aren't any examples, but because you won't accept examples. Any example I give short of "We admit to having liberal bias"(which is like a mafia member claiming to be in the mafia, how likely is that?) is not going to work with you. You don't want statistics, you don't want numbers, and you don't want polls. I don't what universe you live in but, in my world, we call that "evidence". However, since you do want admittance, here is one person who admitted to bias WHILE he was in the news, and left afterward.

NBC Military Analyst Quits Network, Citing Left-wing Bias | NewsBusters.org

enjoy proving how ignorant europeans are about America.

Sir Loin

Who really gives a flip about bias? How many of these threads does it take to entertain the same persons asking the same crap over and over and over? That honestly is what we constantly hear on these boards. And see.

Thus far the “bias” at Fox has not prevented them from reporting……….the…………..actual…………..news. In fact, the only cable news organization I can think of that has allowed their own bias to prevent reporting………..actual…………….news………..is CNN. Check Eason Jordan and Baghdad for a pinch of actual journalistic FAIL. Their bias for greenback potato salad truly did result in exactly the kind of “reporting” (or lack thereof) that the chattering m..a..asses keep trying to ascribe to Fox.


IMO the only thing Pete is really "looking for" is some more straw for his lame azz "Fox-man". It is why he is caught dead every day of the week wearing Elton John style Fox Tinted frames. Count the headlights on the highway Pete. You'll get more done.

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PeteEU

Stop trying to derail the thread.

I see you are impossible to debate anything with. All I stated that Dan Rather either was stupid in not checking the evidence, or was trying to beat the rest of the media to the story. I dont know which it was, but I suspect the beating the rest of the media bit is probably closer to the truth than it is some sort of bias. IF the evidence had been genuine then it was very relevant and very damaging to GWB. You can not deny that, and you can not deny that IF the evidence had been genuine that it would have been a huge news story.

And yes Bush's military records or lack there off have never been investigated by any media organisation in the US in any detail and after this fiasco by Dan Rather, it was pretty much put off limits.

You are again trying to derail the discussion by insults and Euro bashing. This thread has nothing to do with Euros, or the Mafia. The intent was to gather evidence of left wing bias that you and so many others claim there is in the big main stream media.

Okay..so you give up.

How can I make that distinction since you have not provided any examples. In fact you have gone out of your way to derail the thread.

Statistics? How can you use statistics to justify bias? Are there any statistics from independent monitors showing number of republicans vs democrats being interviewed over a long period of time? If so, they would sure prove a bias to one or the other side, depending on who is in power that is.

As for polls, they dont matter jack on this subject, as they dont prove a thing other the opinion of the people making and taking the polls.

And numbers.. what numbers.. is it the UCLA thing again, that has been debunked over and over again? For peak sake the UCLA paper said that the WSJ was the most liberal newspaper in the US... how can anyone take that seriously.

First off, Newsbusters.org is not exactly the most reliable organisation on the planet and the article is badly written and sourced. Newsbusters.org has highly right wing biased, and this you can not deny.

Secondly, the case it self. He quit over that NBC would not fire or punish another analyst for "dissing" the military, an organisation that he had been a member of for a very long time.

Now if NBC had fired or punished said analyst would it not be against the principles of free speech? Could the colonel have rebuked the critic? Was it not basicly one side against another? And is that not the principle of covering both sides of the issue?

Or is it just that you do not agree with giving people who are not pro military a voice on the main stream media and that anyone that dares question the military and the commander in chief should be shot on sight?

How does this guys resignation, prove any bias at NBC? They had him, a right winger most likely, and they had a left winger.. balance no?

And you end it with another insult and with no links to clear cut left wing bias.

Now how about coming up with some examples of liberal bias?