Reverend_Hellh0und

DeeJayH addresses it fine.

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Sir Loin

Yes, I do see where you have used it. In PeteEU's show me so I can ignore examples of left wing bias thread. Which not surprisingly has somehow....become.....about....Pete's....Fox Derangement Syndrome. Who could have guessed that would happen? Thank the lord you showed up to carry his water for him with links to more "studies" about Fox News, in a thread where "studies" and "surveys" of actual journalist are rejected. You two come in the same box or separately?

So like Pete, you think the best thing to do in a thread supposedly about left wing media bias, is complain about the so called "Fox Effect"?

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Scucca

The source is the Quarterly Journal of Economics. That is not biased.

The paper restricts itself to a specific hypothesis, with the growth of Fox providing a perfect means to test the impact of bias on voting. It is not supposed to be a paper that examines the various bias effects. You should react by referring to a source that tests left wing bias. Why haven't you?

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Prove that the Quartely Journal of Economics has never published anything biased.

Sir Loin

So far you two have managed to ignore the topic, ignore dozens of linked studies, and yet you want to whine that your off topic linked study has been ignored? Yes yes Scucca, please do wax philosophic about how we are dismissing your study, in a thread where actual studies that pertain to the bloody topic have been.........dismissed.

Now I know what two hacks in a pea pod look like.

Scucca

[quote=Reverend_Hellh0und;1057675955]Prove that the Quartely Journal of Economics has never published anything biased.
Technically all journals suffer the reality of 'publication bias'. The classic example is the previous tendency of economics sources to bogusly suggest a consensus on minimum wage effects. We then have to be careful. for example, working papers have also to be considered in case that the peer refereeing process unfairly reduces the probability of acceptance for certain paper types.

However, that is not relevant here. The Quarterly Journal of Economics is run by economists. Are you suggesting that economists are all rabid lefties?

Sir Loin

Smell.........the......hackery.

Scucca

I haven't ignored anything. Indeed, I haven't even managed to read anything you've posted. I'm sure it was most interesting. Was there anything similar to the QJE article in terms of quantitative measurement of bias effects?

Reverend_Hellh0und

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show me indepentant support for thier thesis.


here is a good lashing of it.,


The Horror! The Horror!



"Fox News looms large in the liberal panic about creeping fascism--an immense smoke machine pumping poison gas into the atmosphere 24/7, against which there is neither escape nor defense. This theory of the pervasive malevolent power of Fox rests on a quip by anchor Brit Hume that the network played a decisive role in the 2002 midterms, which Conason seems to take seriously, and the scholarly output of two obscure professors arguing that Fox swung the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004 as well. "Citing what they call 'The Fox Effect,'" Conason informs us, "professors Stefano Della Vigna of the University of California at Berkeley and Ethan Kaplan of the University of Stockholm found that the network convinced 2 to 8 percent of its non-Republican viewing audience to 'shift its voting behavior toward the Republican party.'" If they say so. But there is no corresponding mention of the NBC-ABC-CBS-Time-Newsweek-New York Times "effect," and what its impact on voters might be."

Sir Loin

That is what happens when you ignore the topic in order to troll. There is just something so telling about you popping into a thread about "Left Wing Bias" where actual studies and surveys relevant to the thread have been ignored and dismissed, to whine that your off topic study has been dismissed. Well of course it was Einstein, it aint even on the topic. But thanks for admitting you did not bother to read the stuff in the thread about left wing bias, in order to post a study about the "Fox Effect". Ya have not even managed to read anything I've written, though you have responded to me and quoted me? The kiddy playground is outside Scucca, a modicum of honesty is required to play there though. That is some focus ya got going there.