Left wing bias - Page 5

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-22-08, 11:15 AM

More obscure studies. Cool. Can we pay for this obscure study as well?

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

More obscure studies. Cool. Can we pay for this obscure study as well?

Quarterly Journal of Economics is a famous peer reviewed publication. The paper demonstrates significant effects from the right wing bias. Have you got a similar article that achieves something similar from left wing bias?

I doubt it, given that "the Fox News effect could be a temporary learning effect for rational voters, or a permanent effect for nonrational voters subject to persuasion" conclusion. Rationality is less of a problem for the left winger

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-22-08, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Scucca

Quarterly Journal of Economics is a famous peer reviewed publication. The paper demonstrates significant effects from the right wing bias. Have you got a similar article that achieves something similar from left wing bias?

I doubt it, given that "the Fox News effect could be a temporary learning effect for rational voters, or a permanent effect for nonrational voters subject to persuasion" conclusion. Rationality is less of a problem for the left winger

***YAWN***

Link to the free access to this link or your publication is as bunk

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Link to the free access to this link or your publication is as bunk

I know you hate the idea of peer refereed journals. That doesn't interest me. What is revealing is your failure to refer to any such evidence for left wing bias

PS You can find a working paper version here

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Loin

Well aint it fortunate that a journal devoted to economics is now the go to source for Fox News bashing? Chuckle.

Yawn indeed.

Why are you so insistent on ignoring the available evidence? Is it a matter of learned helplessness?

Sir Loin · 07-22-08, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Scucca

Why are you so insistent on ignoring the available evidence? Is it a matter of learned helplessness?

Accidentally deleted my post, but don't need to repost it as you already quoted it.

Oh I've known about your linked source for some time. Now if you can explain how it fits into the topic of this thread, I'll await the slow drift of magic pixie dust that will surely accompany your explanation.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-22-08, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scucca

I know you hate the idea of peer refereed journals. That doesn't interest me. What is revealing is your failure to refer to any such evidence for left wing bias

PS You can find a working paper version here

Wait. "Berkeley.edu"?

And this is supposed to be taken seriously? Perhaps I should respond with something from newsmax.

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Loin

Now if you can explain how it fits into the topic of this thread, I'll await the slow drift of magic pixie dust that will surely accompany your explanation.

See where I've used it. It fitted snugly into Pete's comment over Fox news. I'm happy if you want to ignore it. However, I'm not happy to see folk employing anti-intellectualism techniques. The right wing deserves better!

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

And this is supposed to be taken seriously? Perhaps I should respond with something from newsmax.

When confronted with peer refereed published evidence you have two valid reactions. First, attack the empirical methodology employed. Second, offer an alternative source. I'm happy for you to try either. I know you won't though.

DeeJayH · 07-22-08, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scucca

There's a study on Fox News effects. Della Vigna and Kaplan (2007, The Fox News Effect: Media bias and Voting, Quarterly Journal of Economics, Vol 122, pp 1187-1234) summarise their findings with the following abstract:

Does media bias affect voting? We analyze the entry of Fox News in cable markets and its impact on voting. Between October 1996 and November 2000, the conservative Fox News Channel was introduced in the cable programming of 20 percent of U. S. towns. Fox News availability in 2000 appears to be largely idiosyncratic, conditional on a set of controls. Using a data set of voting data for 9,256 towns, we investigate if Republicans gained vote share in towns where Fox News entered the cable market by the year 2000. We find a significant effect of the introduction of Fox News on the vote share in Presidential elections between 1996 and 2000. Republicans gained 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points in the towns that broadcast Fox News. Fox News also affected voter turnout and the Republican vote share in the Senate. Our estimates imply that Fox News convinced 3 to 28 percent of its viewers to vote Republican, depending on the audience measure. The Fox News effect could be a temporary learning effect for rational voters, or a permanent effect for nonrational voters subject to persuasion.

I'd go with the latter!

even your source is biased
why is it not a study of all major media and their bias, as well as teh effect it has on voting?
or does teh fact that they OMITTED that, proof to you that there is no left wing bias?

and lastly, your post does not dot the i's and cross the t's about how all this affects the economy
your slipping today

now reply with how droll and irrational and ignorant my post is, instead of addressing it