Left wing bias - Page 4

DeeJayH · 07-20-08, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Loin

Yes, I mean actual responses from journalist themselves; surveys and numerous listed studies and polls are “hardly any evidence” at all. You seem to have not read anything at the site. Choosing instead to offer up a rationalized dismissal to the very answers you claim to want to see. And in the same breath, as you pretend not too see the piles of correlated data and surveys of actual working journalist over the last twenty years, you offer up Media Matters to buttress your willing ignorance.

Just on the cover page to the website, you are offered links to pages and pages of cited and quoted sources, studies and more than a few “admissions” by major players in the media. Yet this to you, is “interesting stories”?

Example: A 2004 poll by the Pew Research Center for The People & The Press found five times more journalists described themselves as “liberal” as said they were “conservative.”

Your "thoughtful" answer? Interesting “stories” mumble mumble Media Matters, mumble mumble much of this “exposing” is basically media bashing……………mumble mumble………….Media Matters…………..mumble mumble………….Fox News biased….brain fart……………mumble mumble.

My God what a truly pathetic partisan hack you really are.

you may get gigged a few, but they were worth it IMHO

DeeJayH · 07-21-08, 04:57 PM

dig your teeth into this PETE

New York Times rejects McCain essay - CNN.com

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The New York Times has rejected an essay that Sen. John McCain wrote defending his Iraq war policy.

The piece was in response to an op-ed from Sen. Barack Obama that was published in the paper last week.

in addition to the story itself
notice how what McCain does is an essay
yet the beloved Obama did an Op-ed

DeeJayH · 07-21-08, 07:39 PM

just so i am sure you dont miss this one

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...-met-iraq.html (ABC, CBS, NBC Skip Report of Benchmarks Met in Iraq)

especially the graph in the 1st reply

DeeJayH · 07-21-08, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteEU

Okay, we constantly hear on these boards that US media has a left wing bias.

Now my question is.. can anyone show me where some of the main networks show left wing bias?

And no criticizing Bush or a Republican is not showing left wing bias. And no that lame biased UCLA study on media bias does not cut it either. And no even mentioning left wing polices or the word socialist is not left wing bias.

What I am looking for is clear cut left wing bias along the lines of the way Fox News does bias.. Comments like the Terrorist fist jab, or promoting out right lies or twisting facts for political bias.

So do people have any examples of left wing media bias.

how did we miss this? or did we not

the media is not supposed to criticize anybody
they are supposed to report the facts
so everything you were looking to exclude with your BS limitations is left wing bias

Scucca · 07-21-08, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteEU

Okay, we constantly hear on these boards that US media has a left wing bias.

Given the right wing nature of US politics- with neoliberalism going unchecked- the media must be properly ineffective.

PeteEU · 07-22-08, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayH

how did we miss this? or did we not

the media is not supposed to criticize anybody

Actually they are if there is something to criticize. It has always been their job to keep politicians and governments in check and to expose wrong doing. Journalists have a long history of not only exposing corruption, biased propaganda and so on, but sadly also dieing doing it. But journalists also have been totally guilty of being propaganda outlets for politicians and others which has lead to the deaths of 4000 US troops in Iraq or millions in WW2.

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they are supposed to report the facts

Tell that to Fox News.

DeeJayH · 07-22-08, 10:01 AM

a. Fox news is biased to the right
2. the rest are biased to the left

lastly criticize is not bringing to light corruption
it is disagreeing with a position/action instead of reporting it and letting the public decide
it is the Editorial page where they get to inject their viewpoint

guess you concede since you neglected to address the latest examples i posted

Sir Loin · 07-22-08, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayH

a. Fox news is biased to the right
2. the rest are biased to the left

lastly criticize is not bringing to light corruption
it is disagreeing with a position/action instead of reporting it and letting the public decide
it is the Editorial page where they get to inject their viewpoint

guess you concede since you neglected to address the latest examples i posted

Ah heck DeeJayH, I'm sure you expected no better from Pete. In fact, you could say that when it comes to the subject of media/Fox News, Pete has decided to model himself after Aquapub. Ya just rant a bit and the second anyone brings any facts or an IQ to the table, you flee as far away as fast as you can. Facts and an IQ are indeed anathema to Pete and his Fox tinted world view.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-22-08, 10:49 AM

I love this thread.

PETE: SHOW ME BIAS

EVERYONE: Here is some bias.

PETE: that's not bias!

EVERYONE: sure it is here lets explain

PETE: THERE IS NO BIAS...

repeat......

Scucca · 07-22-08, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteEU

Tell that to Fox News.

There's a study on Fox News effects. Della Vigna and Kaplan (2007, The Fox News Effect: Media bias and Voting, Quarterly Journal of Economics, Vol 122, pp 1187-1234) summarise their findings with the following abstract:

Does media bias affect voting? We analyze the entry of Fox News in cable markets and its impact on voting. Between October 1996 and November 2000, the conservative Fox News Channel was introduced in the cable programming of 20 percent of U. S. towns. Fox News availability in 2000 appears to be largely idiosyncratic, conditional on a set of controls. Using a data set of voting data for 9,256 towns, we investigate if Republicans gained vote share in towns where Fox News entered the cable market by the year 2000. We find a significant effect of the introduction of Fox News on the vote share in Presidential elections between 1996 and 2000. Republicans gained 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points in the towns that broadcast Fox News. Fox News also affected voter turnout and the Republican vote share in the Senate. Our estimates imply that Fox News convinced 3 to 28 percent of its viewers to vote Republican, depending on the audience measure. The Fox News effect could be a temporary learning effect for rational voters, or a permanent effect for nonrational voters subject to persuasion.

I'd go with the latter!