Sir Loin

Bah, he admitted he was here to change the topic to his own. He even spelled it out implicitly.

So what did we learn? There is no bias in the media to the left, only the right? Seems to be the message. That there are studies that show the various media sources have bias and effect?

WoW.

Quick, somebody alert Ripley's!

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Scucca

It doesn't cheer me to see you so incapable of keeping up. The QJE article, being the appropriate type to test media bias, makes comments like "Republicans gain 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points in the towns which broadcast Fox News". I have no interest in rambling about the nature of right wing media bias in the US. Given her neoliberalism, such ramble would be stupidity. All I've asked is that you come out with a similar empirical analysis for left wing bias. It isn't much to ask. It may be beyond your Googling 101, but I'm sure a right wing oik can help you and fill in the gaps

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i guess you accidentally missed post 96?


you fail at the internets....


let me repost it.




why no response to this one?

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Scucca

There was no need. You've continued to fail to google with any merit. As an experiment, count the number of times the article uses the term "left wing".

How would you adapt comments like "Voters who dislike the news media are more influenced by their party identification and appear less influenced by recent economic conditions" to fit my simple request: an empirical investigation into the impact on left wing bias on Democrat voting numbers (i.e. on a par with "Republicans gain 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points in the towns which broadcast Fox News")

Reverend_Hellh0und

scucca,

how sad for you always running away from real debate. it does not matter what i post because you are to afraid to discuss anything and simply dismiss it.... pathetic existence imo....


but lets play.


i'll be happy to post my next link if you can post a shred of evidence of your claim that only the right wing has this bias and voter effect. the link you provided is crap. and unsubstantiated.



oh and you never addressed the msm calling the election for Kerry before the polls closed which drove away voters on the east coast from voting.


is that "empiracle" enough for you or are we to be treated to more of your pseudo-intellectual nonsense?

Scucca

You people really do have some strange ideas. I've made my position very clear:

I've referred to the need to find voting effects to ensure any debate on media bias is worthwhile. Much of the literature I'm afraid does not manage it, relying instead on ad hoc methodologies to search for bias. I therefore do understand why you found my simple request awfully difficult.

I did find your inability to learn from your googling errors disheartening though!

I do not know of any evidence that repeats the QJE article's methodology. I've asked you if you do. So far clearly you do not.

This does not mean we can accept that right wingers are more likely to be non-rational and therefore easily persuaded. However, it does mean the hypothesis so far cannot be rejected.

Why would I? I only want evidence to show how media bias directly skews voting patterns.

You've provided nothing of merit. I'd get jolly cross with you if I could only squeeze past my apathy

Reverend_Hellh0und

how is it ad hoc? claiming it so does not make it so,. you need to show substance.


And I find your inability to discuss anything but some obscure point regarding an exact methodology that you can't even describe with origional thought "disheartening"



what specific methodology are you refering to and how does the methodology in my last post not meet the same criteria?



more inane stupidity on your behalf. Let me ask you, ignoring all evidence other than any evidence that exatcly matches your simpleton's methodology makes everyone else "non-rational"?

but two can play. i reject your study as my study takes your study and applies a neutral bias to it, your study is rather one sided and incomplete, this makes left wingers appear irrational.

your schtick is overtly simple, and lame.



so wait. left wing news people calling the election for kerry before the polls end is nor evidence of media bias skewing voting patterns?

and you call right wingers "irrational"...



ooh i wouldn't want you "jolly cross" with me... oh no.... "jolly cross" oooooo.... will this be before or after your afternoon tea....

The Good Reverend is laughing and it is not with you...

Scucca

We start with vague and ambiguous descriptors such as 'conservative' and 'liberal'. We're then reliant on the expert's 'opinion' over techniques employed, particularly in terms of the creation of scales (e.g. the methodology to derive +1.0 for perfectly conservative and -1.0 for perfectly liberal, as often employed in the literature).

By referring to voting effects we avoid these problems. We employ econometric methodologies that are able to control for empirical bias and isolate media effects. However, there is a cost from adopting this systematic approach. We are testing a more specific hypothesis: i.e. are there any behavioural implications from media bias? However, I see that as a positive. Empty “the naughty media refuses to be a bland mini me” lower lip quivering, as adopted by both the petty left and right, is not dandy.

I'm sure you do. You've shown yourself up badly, particularly with the misapplication of the theoretical paper.

Its darn obvious: empirical analysis that isolates the “left wing” media's effect on voting. You obviously haven't read the article you googled.

You need to do some Stats 101 and get taught about hypothesis testing. My comment was accurate. I know of no evidence to reject my hypothesis. I therefore 'fail to reject' it. Now it is quite possible that I've skewed my reading and therefore have an incomplete literature review. This makes my request for information from you doubly important. Do you have any analysis that rejects my hypothesis? (i.e. evidence that the 'left wing' media voting effect is at least as large as found in the QJE paper)

I do so treasure American wit!

Reverend_Hellh0und

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAA!


Yet "right wing, and left wing" are less "vague and ambiguous" You again say nothing here.



Everyone of my links provided evidence in a more neutral fashion than your intellectually bankrupt "right wingers are illogical and the left wing media does not affect voting" nonsense.



How silly are you? It demonstrates as you denied earlier that bias is not simply a right wing media phenomenon. You CHOOSE not to see it to fit your silly little pseudo-intellectual agenda.

It's not even big top material ol chap.


So you are admitting to willfull ignorance and puropseful obtusness. Good at least we agree on someting.

I'd post the study on the effect the media had on voting when they prematurly called the race for Kerry, but by your own words I can see that would be a waste of time.




I bet you sound real funny talking this nonsense in a hard cockney accent.