Originally Posted by new coup for you

you know Murdoch, after WWII they hung the guy who produced Der Sturmer

something to think about

Originally Posted by P/N

See Nifty's quote below.


Look, I don't have the time to post on here (or even get on the computer) nearly as much as I used to. My fiancee has been out of work for the past month and I'm working 2 jobs to make ends meet. If my unwillingness to put forth a little more effort because I'm either working or too tired to do a little research is confused with "unable to back up my assertions", then I'm sorry.

The facts are indisputable - every cable network has a slant. When one only attacks a single network and gives the others a pass, it's called being dishonest. They all pull the same crap and use the same tactics, but only one of them is demonized the way FOX News is. I'm not sure what the "FOX News crowd" is exactly, but I would bet they are eerily similar to the "FOX News bashing crowd" in that they live under rocks. I'm sorry for you if you are either unwilling to admit, or too stupid to realize, that MSNBC is just as "evil" as FOX News. No single news outlet should ever be trusted completely. I tend to watch FOX News more than the others simply because it's on at work more often, but I do watch CNN, MSNBC and FOX News and I see the same twists and turns in the stories, depending on the slant of course. If you don't see that, then your eyes aren't open because your partisan hatred fogs up reality for you.

I'm hoping to get an intelligent response from you, but I'm sure you will let me down as always. Keep trying though, I'm pulling for ya!

Originally Posted by aps

First, I appreciate your explaining why you don't have the time to do more research. I totally understand. I commend you for working as hard as you do. I hope your fiancee appreciates it.

There is no doubt that Keith Olbermann and Dan Abrams have a slant in favor of Democrats. People say that Chris Matthews has a slant towards Democrats as well--I don't see it and neither does my Democrat husband. In fact, we get infuriated when we see him give Democrats a hard time because it is rare we see him give Republicans a hard time.

MSNBC has Morning Joe, and Joe Scarborough is a Republican. Personally, I like him, and I will watch his show when I am not working.

What bothers me about Fox News is that they consistently bash Democrats in a way that is very elementary-schoolish, IMO. The comment about Obama and his wife doing a fist bump and the stupid woman from Fox News saying something about it being indicative of a terrorist sign was just plain ludicrous, and that is putting it lightly. I have never seen CNN or MSNBC show such partisanship. This is what bugs me most about Fox--the immaturity they show in their partisanship. Shame on them. Shame, shame on them. I cannot emphasize this enough.

If this isn't an intelligent response, so be it.

Originally Posted by PeteEU

Well said.

You just forgot to mention that they claim to be "Fair and Balanced" which they clearly are not.

Also the lack of accountability to the crap that they pull is non existant. As I have pointed out before the hypocrisy by pro Fox News people is huge. When Fox News does something wrong.. no peep, but when CBS, ABC or even Al Jazerra shows partisanship or "screws up", they are all over them. Case in point, CBS, Dan Rather and Bush's military record. Fox News has used fabricated and false information several times (as I have proved before) and yet people never talk about that.

I have never seen such partisanship on issues on any international network or the news shows from the US we can see here, as I have seen on Fox News. Not even on Al Jazeera English.

And yes I am fully aware that Sir Lion and other pro Fox News people will be all over me yet again, using the usual right wing tricks to attack me and discredit my sources and so on, just as they have done against you aps and others who dare criticize the right wing Pravda.

Originally Posted by aps

When David Shuster said that Hillary's campaign was "pimping" Chelsea, he was suspended for several weeks. On Fox News, they would likely have given him a raise.

Media Matters - NBC News president: Shuster suspended for Chelsea Clinton comments

Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

please back this up with links and evidence that foxnews would give him a raise.

Originally Posted by aps

Oh give me a break. I said "would likely have," which is not the same as stating that it would have given him a raise.

By the way, do you have any evidence that anyone from Fox News was ever suspended for making a partisan remark?

Originally Posted by aps

By the way, do you have any evidence that anyone from Fox News was ever suspended for making a partisan remark?

Originally Posted by PeteEU

Actually Fox News has "let go" or "marginalized" journalists on its own staff for not following the "party line".