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Old 06-04-08, 10:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I doubt I would go as far as perpetual, but it is frequent. Note that it does, less frequently, go the other way too. You right wingers need more film makers to balance things.
I have read a lot about the media, especially Hollywood, being mostly lefties, so if this movie is done by them, surely it will come out that the repulsive republicans (led by master manipulator/liar Karl Rove) are the ones who stole an election, and then led us into a war against Iraq using terrorism as a cover story while the real reason is the shrub wanted to redeem his pop's mistake of stopping the first war before it was really over.
History will not be kind to the bush family, and deservedly so.
That being said, I voted for both of them, and will hold my nose and vote for McShame. The democrats haven't fielded a viable candidate since William Jefferson Clinton....
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Old 06-05-08, 02:22 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Unlike the 9/11 documentary though, the outrages here are substantive and central to the viewer verdict. Democrat incompetence and spinelessness really did set 9/11 in motion and make it inevitable.
Path to 9/11 wasn't a documentary.
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Old 06-05-08, 04:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I have read a lot about the media, especially Hollywood, being mostly lefties, so if this movie is done by them, surely it will come out that the repulsive republicans (led by master manipulator/liar Karl Rove) are the ones who stole an election, and then led us into a war against Iraq using terrorism as a cover story while the real reason is the shrub wanted to redeem his pop's mistake of stopping the first war before it was really over.
History will not be kind to the bush family, and deservedly so.
That being said, I voted for both of them, and will hold my nose and vote for McShame. The democrats haven't fielded a viable candidate since William Jefferson Clinton....
Yeah, Disney Villain conspiracy theories and psychobabble about Bush and his father are much more reasonable explanations for why we removed a terror-sponsoring anti-American regime obssessed with WMD and infamous for using WMD to commit mass murder. It couldn't possibly just be that 9/11 made regimes like Saddam's with 15 years of failed diplomacy under their belt intolerable.
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Old 06-05-08, 06:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah, Disney Villain conspiracy theories and psychobabble about Bush and his father are much more reasonable explanations for why we removed a terror-sponsoring anti-American regime obssessed with WMD and infamous for using WMD to commit mass murder. It couldn't possibly just be that 9/11 made regimes like Saddam's with 15 years of failed diplomacy under their belt intolerable.
Saddam did not have WMD, but he did want Iran to think he did. And Saddam's connections to world wide terrorism has not been proven to be near the level of the Saudis. Why did we not attack Saudi Arabia after 9/11? At the least, we should have provided them with a bill for replacement of the twin towers and several millions for each of the victim's families. Watching Bush holding hands with one of the crown princes of the royal family made be want to puke...
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Old 06-05-08, 08:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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1) Katherine Harris pushed for a statewide recount.
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Saddam did not have WMD, but he did want Iran to think he did.
Unless you count the hundreds of shells of mustard gas, sarin gas, the vials of botulism, the cyanide, and enough Uranium to make dozens of dirty bombs...and whatever he was able to get rid of during the 9 month head start we gave him before invading, sure.



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And Saddam's connections to world wide terrorism has not been proven to be near the level of the Saudis.
Which is irrelevant, since the Saudis are working with us, fighting al Qaida. Liberals seriously need to figure out whether they want America groveling for the approval of our allies or attacking them. The contradictions are becoming a bit persistent.
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Harris certified that the Republican candidate, then-Texas Governor George W. Bush, had defeated the Democratic candidate, then-Vice President Al Gore, in the popular vote of Florida and thus certified the Republican slate of electors. Her ruling was challenged and overturned on appeal by Florida's Supreme Court;
Harris certifying that Bush won refutes that she initially pressed for a statewide recount? Um...sure.



When Gore came out only wanting to recount the 4 most liberal counties, a statewide recount was the counter-offer.

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Newsflash: If Gore were in office, the economy would have never recovered from the left's al Qaida mess when 9/11 still happened (because he would not have responded to the economic free fall by cutting taxes and turning things around). Similarly, Katrina still would have happened (and their wouldn't be a Republican in office to blame for Democrat incompetence), corporate scandals still would have happened, the gas prices caused by Democrats would be even higher (from those gas tax hikes they still advocate to this day), frivolous lawsuits (protected by Democrats) would still be wrecking the health care system, amnesty would have already been granted to the economy-raping hordes invading our country from below, unions would still be sending our jobs overseas, and most importantly, there would no longer be prosperity from a tech boom for Democrats to take credit for while working against it at every turn, delaying the natural consequences of economically suicidal Democrat policies (see, the Clinton Recession).
If Gore were in office, we wouldn't be in Iraq spending more than a trillion dollars. Let's not pretend this war has not been horrible on our economy. Give me a break, aquapub!
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Unless you count the hundreds of shells of mustard gas, sarin gas, the vials of botulism, the cyanide, and enough Uranium to make dozens of dirty bombs...and whatever he was able to get rid of during the 9 month head start we gave him before invading, sure.
Which is irrelevant, since the Saudis are working with us, fighting al Qaida. Liberals seriously need to figure out whether they want America groveling for the approval of our allies or attacking them. The contradictions are becoming a bit persistent.
So you admit that he didn't have them when we invaded? and are only guessing that he had them before? Welcome to intelligence George Bush style.
Saudi Arabia provided all but one of the terrorists, and more will come.
PBS - frontline: saudi time bomb?: analyses: wahhabism
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When Gore came out only wanting to recount the 4 most liberal counties, a statewide recount was the counter-offer.
What are you talking about? Bush never made a counter offer for a statewide recount. He opposed any and all recounts in Florida.

BTW, there was nothing uncommon or improper about partial recounts, and especially one where old punch-type voting machines were inaccurate, and officials had created chaos by closing or moving precincts without notice and other voter disenfranchisement tactics.
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