New York Times Omits for Obama

cnredd · 05-21-08, 03:11 PM

Don't think their kneepads don't say "Obama '08" on them?...

Check this out...Bigass crowd I'd say...

Obama Draws Huge Crowd in Oregon as Clinton Courts Kentucky

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Senator Barack Obama drew the largest crowd of his campaign so far on Sunday, addressing an estimated 75,000 people who had gathered here on the banks of the Willamette River.

Wow! Wow! Wow!” were his first words as he surveyed the multitude, which included people in kayaks and small pleasure craft on the river on an unseasonably hot day in Oregon.

It is “fair to say this is the most spectacular setting for the most spectacular crowd” of his campaign, he told the audience. His wife and daughters, who have been with him most of the weekend, joined him on the stage at the beginning of the event but left as he was about to speak.

Now remember...The headline says "Obama draws huge crowd" and the first sentence of the article reads "Senator Barack Obama drew the largest crowd of his campaign so far on Sunday"...

But was that REALLY the reason everyone showed up...

(I'll give you a hint...The answer rhymes with "Dell Mo!")...

Now let's see the REAL reason for such a crowd...

The Decemberists, Barack Obama Team for PDX Rally

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And look who's arrived to give Obama the extra push he needs to get on the ballot in November. Why, it's none other than those kings and queens of the month after, the Decemberists!

Singin' Colin Meloy, Chris Funk, Jenny Conlee, Nate Query, and recent solo-flyer John Moen will join the Obama-non himself for a free rally at the Bowl at Portland's Waterfront Park this Sunday, May 18. Gates open at 12:30 p.m. PDX time. For more info and RSVP details, head here.

Apart from this bit of politicking, the Decemberists have only one other show coming up: a sweater-tuggers' love-in with Death Cab for Cutie and Rogue Wave in Bend, Oregon later this month.

Obamaists:

05-18 Portland, OR - The Bowl at Waterfront Park (Barack Obama Rally) *

So now we find that this was ALSO a free concert played by the Decemberists, which is a major label band who hails from?...You got it!...Portland, Oregon!...

Now I have NO problem with having a band coming out for their candidate and holding a free show...

What I DO have a problem with is when the media DOESN'T REPORT IT and tells the public that the ONLY reason there were 75,000 in the park that day was Obama and NOT that there was a free concert held by a popular hometown band...

azura28 · 05-21-08, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Don't think their kneepads don't say "Obama '08" on them?...

Check this out...Bigass crowd I'd say...

Obama Draws Huge Crowd in Oregon as Clinton Courts Kentucky

Now remember...The headline says "Obama draws huge crowd" and the first sentence of the article reads "Senator Barack Obama drew the largest crowd of his campaign so far on Sunday"...

But was that REALLY the reason everyone showed up...

(I'll give you a hint...The answer rhymes with "Dell Mo!")...

Now let's see the REAL reason for such a crowd...

The Decemberists, Barack Obama Team for PDX Rally

So now we find that this was ALSO a free concert played by the Decemberists, which is a major label band who hails from?...You got it!...Portland, Oregon!...

Now I have NO problem with having a band coming out for their candidate and holding a free show...

What I DO have a problem with is when the media DOESN'T REPORT IT and tells the public that the ONLY reason there were 75,000 in the park that day was Obama and NOT that there was a free concert held by a popular hometown band...

Excellent post, and no....this has not been noted by anyone in the main media. I can't imagine why?

dclxvinoise · 05-21-08, 03:54 PM

I could see your point if the event were billed as a Decemberists concert, with Obama as a special guest. However, it was an Obama rally with The Decemberists as a special guest. It's rather arrogant to assume that the crowd was so huge solely because The Decemberists were there. I'm not saying that you are assuming this, but I also don't think that the New York Times were trying to deceive anyone by not including that information. By the way, The Decemberists are popular for an indie band, but I don't think they normally draw crowds like that.

Regardless, when Obama showed up in Bozeman Montana the other day, the event was completely sold out. It was billed as a rally and Michael Keaton showed up as a surprise guest. Nobody knew that he was going to be there. I'm not saying that is what happened with this event, but one should consider all possibilities before drawing conclusions.

cnredd · 05-21-08, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dclxvinoise

I could see your point if the event were billed as a Decemberists concert, with Obama as a special guest. However, it was an Obama rally with The Decemberists as a special guest. It's rather arrogant to assume that the crowd was so huge solely because The Decemberists were there. I'm not saying that you are assuming this, but I also don't think that the New York Times were trying to deceive anyone by not including that information. By the way, The Decemberists are popular for an indie band, but I don't think they normally draw crowds like that.

Regardless, when Obama showed up in Bozeman Montana the other day, the event was completely sold out. It was billed as a rally and Michael Keaton showed up as a surprise guest. Nobody knew that he was going to be there. I'm not saying that is what happened with this event, but one should consider all possibilities before drawing conclusions.

Here's a report on another show they did...Over 1,000 miles away from their hometown...in Chicago...

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The free Decemberists show last night at Millenium Park was pretty stunning. I didn't even mind the light rain, which actually fit in pretty well with the mood of the music. The Decemberists' music translated wonderfully with the orchestra, the sound was amazing, they played songs from every album- and best of all, we heard it all for free in a beautiful park against the backdrop of the city skyline while chilling on a blanket drinking wine- seriously, it doesn't get any better than that. Chicago rules, basically. I was pretty blown away by the crowd; we were lucky enough to get a good spot on the lawn, but people were spilling out all over the grass and sidewalk well outside the pavillion.

And here's a picture of that concert...

Now if that's what they get over 1,000 miles from home, I would THINK you could comprehend that the hometown crowd would be even larger...

Secondly, and MUCH more important...

It doesn't matter if 70,000 were there for Obama and 5,000 were there for the Decemberists...or 5,000 were there for Obama and 70,000 were there for the Decemberists...

The point is the fact that the Decemberists WEREN'T EVEN MENTIONED is a lie of omission...The NYT intentionally left that aspect out making it appear that ALL of the people were there strictly for Obama and no other reason...

BWG · 05-21-08, 07:47 PM

Here is another photo from the show from Millenium Park in Chicago...

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While there were hundreds, nay, thousands, of Decemberists fans on the lawn, many of the up-close patrons, holders of Grant Park Music Festival memberships, were clearly unfamiliar with the band, and we noticed quite a few opting to leave after only a couple of songs.

Chicagoist: ReViewed: The Decemberists with the Grant Park Orchestra

First you say that the media "tells the public that the ONLY reason there were 75,000 in the park that day was Obama". Nowhere does the article say anything about the ONLY reason...ONLY was emphasized twice in the OP. In fact, for those that can't read the article because you need a password, the only thing it says about the crowd is quoted in post #1.

Second you say "Now let's see the REAL reason for such a crowd..." and the link you provide has no proof that the free concert was the REAL reason for the crowd. (What is the readership of 'pitchforkmedia.com' anyway?)

Ok, this is just a poster on a site (just like you or I) so take from it what you will. But apparently he didn't see the 'pitchforkmedia.com' promo...LOL
(I actually tried to find a flyer or invitation to see how the event was promoted, but no luck)

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I know this is all in good cheeky fun- but I was at the rally and own a lot of Decembrists records and can positively attest that no one knew the Decembrists were playing. We walked during 16 Military Wives (so yes they did play it Mr Geraghty)and thought it was just canned background music. An entire song passed before we realized that it was the actual band on stage. In fact, never once in the 2 1/2 hours I stood in line was the word "Decembrist" even mentioned and it was nowhere to be found on any of the invitations that brought me there in the first place.

To sum up: I know the Decembrists, I like the Decembrists, but I sure as hell am not standing in a 25 block long line for close to three hours just to see them play at Waterfront Park for free (especially when I don't even know it's an option). Now to hear a 45 minute long stump speech by some politician...

Zyphlin · 05-22-08, 07:02 PM

By "only" that means no other reasons were given. If you are told people are here for "X" reason....and that's it...then you're being told that's the only reason. Why? Because there's no other listed reason.

Why the Decembrists along may not be the reason why EVERYONE was there, it is highly likely to think that logically a group that attracts large numbers elsewhere is likely to attract a large number in their home town and thus had at least some what of an affect on that number. If that's the case, attributing all 75,000 to Obama is dishonest.

independent_thinker2002 · 05-22-08, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin

By "only" that means no other reasons were given. If you are told people are here for "X" reason....and that's it...then you're being told that's the only reason. Why? Because there's no other listed reason.

Why the Decembrists along may not be the reason why EVERYONE was there, it is highly likely to think that logically a group that attracts large numbers elsewhere is likely to attract a large number in their home town and thus had at least some what of an affect on that number. If that's the case, attributing all 75,000 to Obama is dishonest.

Hillary should have called out the Stones.

Then she could get the British vote like she did with Elton John.

FallingPianos · 05-22-08, 08:19 PM

I was there.

I found out about the rally via an e-mail from the obama campaign:

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Please join Barack Obama for a rally in Portland, where he'll talk about his vision for bringing America together and creating the kind of change we can believe in.

Rally with Barack Obama

The Bowl
Waterfront Park
Corner of SW Columbia St. and SW Naito Pkwy.
South of the Hawthorne Bridge

Sunday, May 18th, 2008
Doors Open: 12:30 p.m.

RSVP now

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Rally with Barack Obama in Portland

The event is free and open to the public. Tickets are not required, but an RSVP is strongly encouraged. Admission is on a first-come, first-served basis.

For security reasons, do not bring bags. Please limit personal items. No signs or banners permitted.

the decemberists were not mentioned.

I waited in line for about 2 hours before even getting into the park, and all of the talk was about seeing obama. not a single person mentioned that the decemberists were going to be there.

I didn't find out the decemberists were there until I heard them playing music as I walked into the park.

the decemberists finished their show about 90 minutes before obama came on stage. people didn't start leaving with them.

I can assure you that the decemberists were not what drew 72,000 people to the park that day.

I'll add that when you click on the link, it does say "Special Guest Performance by: Colin Meloy, Chris Funk, Jenny Conlee, Nate Query, and John Moen". only the biggest decemberists fans will even know who those people are.

donc · 05-22-08, 11:38 PM

Here’s the headliner for a McCain rally.

YouTube - Snake Handling Church Service

aps · 05-23-08, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FallingPianos

I was there.

I found out about the rally via an e-mail from the obama campaign:

the decemberists were not mentioned.

I waited in line for about 2 hours before even getting into the park, and all of the talk was about seeing obama. not a single person mentioned that the decemberists were going to be there.

I didn't find out the decemberists were there until I heard them playing music as I walked into the park.

the decemberists finished their show about 90 minutes before obama came on stage. people didn't start leaving with them.

I can assure you that the decemberists were not what drew 72,000 people to the park that day.

I'll add that when you click on the link, it does say "Special Guest Performance by: Colin Meloy, Chris Funk, Jenny Conlee, Nate Query, and John Moen". only the biggest decemberists fans will even know who those people are.

Thank you for debunking the point of this thread.