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Old 05-13-08, 02:51 AM   #1
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The most Propagandized country on earth

Thanks to our tax money, Israel enjoys subsidies to settlers and affordable health care for all. US soldiers fight their dangerous enemies while they brutalize and murder helpless Palestinians. ZionCons are not only becoming increasingly mindless about the Israeli human rights crimes, they have become increasingly heartless.

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Sixty years of massive, ongoing, coldly calculated human rights abuses against the Palestinian people.

That's the legacy of the State of Israel.

Americans pay the bills for this tyranny and our hopelessly corrupt news media and elected officials go along with it because it's politically expedient.

Note: The videos of IfAmericansKnew.org are constantly removed by YouTube censors.

YouTube - If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing! VIDEO WAS CENSORED!
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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

Most propagandized is a bit much dont you think? There's alot of competition for that title.

Why does Youtube ban these videos?
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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

The video does not support the title very well and does not really bring anything new to the table aside from Yahoo suppressing anti Israeli videos.

I could agree though that we might have one of the most corrupted medias on earth and through the influence of both big business and government we end up with a rather large share of propaganda.

Since the start of mass media, special interest groups have used it to spew forth propaganda that supports their agenda and not the truth.
Our obsession with money, profit, and ratings has led us to have a media that is less than free.
The internet is starting to change this.
But in addition to the good information one can acquire over the net, there is a lot more bad information available too.

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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

Really? More than North Korea?
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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

hyperbole is a useful tool for propagandists.
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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

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Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

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Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
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Hmm - think that might be because the terrorist cowards hide behind civilian populations and use them as human shields?
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Hmm - think that might be because the terrorist cowards hide behind civilian populations and use them as human shields?
"Terrorist cowards" can easily apply to both sides.
Terrorists are not exactly cowards either.

Anyhow, In most Israeli attacks I have read about, the "terrorists" were not "hiding" behind civilians.
Most of the time its a car that is bombed or a building, and the "terrorists" never knew what hit them, only they end up killing all of the civilians in the area as well.
Or worse, their intel was bad and all they got were some civilians.

Before you come back with a link, understand that i do not dispute the existence of "terrorists" hiding behind civilians.
My claim is simply that this occurs far too little to account for such a discrepancy in deaths of children.

But what really sends off a red flag for me is that many of the Palestinian "terrorists" do for certain target women and children deliberately.
If you think on that one for a moment you will start to realize the ramifications of it as it relates to the numbers.
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"Terrorist cowards" can easily apply to both sides.
Terrorists are not exactly cowards either.

Anyhow, In most Israeli attacks I have read about, the "terrorists" were not "hiding" behind civilians.
Most of the time its a car that is bombed or a building, and the "terrorists" never knew what hit them, only they end up killing all of the civilians in the area as well.
Or worse, their intel was bad and all they got were some civilians.

Before you come back with a link, understand that i do not dispute the existence of "terrorists" hiding behind civilians.
My claim is simply that this occurs far too little to account for such a discrepancy in deaths of children.

But what really sends off a red flag for me is that many of the Palestinian "terrorists" do for certain target women and children deliberately.
If you think on that one for a moment you will start to realize the ramifications of it as it relates to the numbers.
Are you claiming that the Israelis DELIBERATELY target children like the Palestinian terrorists do?
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Re: The most Propagandized country on earth

Can someone please explain to me why I should care about either the Israelis or the Palestinians?
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