The most Propagandized country on earth - Page 3

Red_Dave · 05-17-08, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Howl

Hmmm. Okay. If that works for you.

On the other hand, I don't buy into the "chosen people" concept, probably because I don't worship your God.

So I think I will continue to give my own nation top priority.

Well given the fact [assuming your american] your government has a significant role in the conflict and your government is answerable to you then you have a moral imperative to pay attention to whats happening.

Red_Dave · 05-17-08, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ludahai

Who is saying YOU have to care about them? As a Catholic Christian, I am concerned about all people, but most of all, I am concerned about the Chosen People of God and the Holy Land.

St paul would disagree with you there [see Galatians 3:28]

ludahai · 05-18-08, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Dave

St paul would disagree with you there [see Galatians 3:28]

Saint Paul is saying that we should care for ALL of the children of God - which is all of us. I DO care for all of the Children of God. However, due to the special plight of the descendants of the Chosen People, we have a responsibility to be especially concerned for them.

BillyBob · 05-18-08, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Hill

Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent.": Gore Vidal

Anyone who has the power to make you believe
absurdities [. . .such as Kassam rocket launches justify Israeli massacres of civilians. . .Joe Hill] has the power to make you commit
injustices." - Voltaire, 1767

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
Palestinian and Israeli children Killed

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

Lachean · 05-19-08, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

Please tell me thats sarcasm, and that you aren't actually an immoral religious nutjob?

EDIT: Nope, given your recent posting history, you are for real. Wow... Its like talking to someone from the dark ages, or looking at a tapedeck; They still make you?

americanwoman · 05-19-08, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_Dave

Well given the fact [assuming your american] your government has a significant role in the conflict and your government is answerable to you then you have a moral imperative to pay attention to whats happening.

That's the problem. Most Americans would like to bury their heads in the sand here and pretend it doesn't matter to them since it's not in their backyard. Except for the some of the Americans posting on this board and others, I'd bet most Americans don't even know what the conflict is about. If I tried to talk about this with some of my girlfriends...... it's almost sad to think about the blank look on their faces. I love them and all, but most of them are not politically or globally aware.

Joe Hill · 06-09-08, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ludahai

Are you claiming that the Israelis DELIBERATELY target children like the Palestinian terrorists do?

What proof do you have that Palestinian terrorists "deliberately" target children? Kassam rockets are not guided. Those few Palestinian infiltrators who make it out of the Ghetto hit the first target they can: soldier, armed settler, etc. IDF terrorist snipers deliberately target children, yes. They have done so with telescopic sniper rifles aimed from the Wall. They shelled a family of a woman and her children openly visible to Israeli terror gunboats.

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A schoolgirl riddled with bullets. And no one is to blame. Questions remain after Israeli unit commander is cleared of Palestinian pupil's death
Chris McGreal in Rafah

The Guardian, Thursday October 21 2004 Article history

The undisputed facts are these: it was broad daylight, 13-year-old Iman al-Hams was wearing her school uniform, and when she walked into the Israeli army's "forbidden zone" at the bottom of her street she was carrying her satchel. A few minutes later the short, slight child was pumped with bullets. Doctors counted at least 17 wounds and said much of her head was destroyed.
Beyond that there is little agreement between the army top brass and Palestinian witnesses as to how Iman came to die last week, or even among members of the military unit responsible for killing the child in Gaza's Rafah refugee camp.

Palestinian witnesses described the shooting as cold-blooded. They say soldiers could not have failed to see they were firing at a child, and she was killed as she already lay wounded and helpless.

John1234 · 06-09-08, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Maybe if your Jewish.
If you are Christian, then we are all God's children. Including the Muslims and all human begins everywhere.
And you will be judged for your views and treatment of all of God's children.

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

I find it repulsive and sickening to see you advocating hatred, murder, and even genocide... in the name of God.

You are no better than a Jihadist.
In fact you ARE a Jihadist.
And the God you pray to is most certainly not the Christian God.

Lachean · 06-09-08, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John1234

Maybe if your Jewish.
If you are Christian, then we are all God's children. Including the Muslims and all human begins everywhere.
And you will be judged for your views and treatment of all of God's children.

I find it repulsive and sickening to see you advocating hatred, murder, and even genocide... in the name of God.

You are no better than a Jihadist.
In fact you ARE a Jihadist.
And the God you pray to is most certainly not the Christian God.

I think the consensus has been that BillyBob was a joke, and that such archetypes do not exist.

Vader · 06-09-08, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

1.) The Palestinians teach their children to do those things

2.) The Palestinians brainwash their children into being homocide-bombers (I say this proves the Palestinans are the problem)

3.) Thee Palestinians glorify terrorists and terrorism. Yes, they even allow thier children to dress-up as little terrorists. INCLUDING FAKE SUICIDE BELTS!

4.) Your post shows DIRECT SUPPORT for terrorists and terrorism. Shame on you for that.

5.) The Palestinians elected a TERRORIST GROUP to run their country.

6.) The Palestinians USE CHILDREN AS LIVING BOMBS to attack Israeli civilians. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME AN ISRAELI TEENAGER DETONATED A SUICIDE BELT WHILE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PALESTINIAN MARKETPLACE?

7.) You and your lame analogy make me ill.

8.) YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU NEED TO REALIZE THIS FACT.