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Old 03-17-08, 08:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Sigh... Another one of those nuts who calls everybody who disagrees with him left wingers. Just more tired old crap from another tired old troll. Once more for the record...
Sigh, another one of those nuts who cannot read and comprehend. Where did I suggest that you were a leftist? Care to point it out.

I see you are better at insults and condescension than you are at coherent debate.


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Oops, look what happened to you. You got three out in just one bat. That is a first. I hope you are not planning to make a career out of politics. You would end up homeless, and it is easy to see why. You bring absolutely nothing to debate with, other than silly name calling.
You may want to read your post regarding the name calling Mr. Hypocrite. Once more, and much like a leftist, you resort to name calling when your less than factual arguments cannot be supported with facts.

By the way, for someone who claims to be a Conservative, you sure as hell don't type like one. You sound more like one of them raving lunatics on the left who claim Fox is biased and our freedoms are being infringed upon and Bush is evil. I can see why you took offense at my remarks that were not directed at you; perhaps you felt the shoe fits, so you decided to wear it?



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I hope you are not planning to make a career out of politics. You would end up homeless, and it is easy to see why. You bring absolutely nothing to debate with, other than silly name calling.
I hope you do not intend to make a career out of debating. You would end up embarrassed and it is easy to see why. You can't comprehend what you read; you make wild eyed assumptions; you rant without facts and when challenged you whine like a little baby.

That's four strikes for you dude, you're outta here.



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I am happy you choose to ignore and run away, you add no substance to the debate anyway.

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Old 03-17-08, 08:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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When you are a Conservative you have 2 outlets to get your news on......Talk radio and FOX.........All of the other network outlets are slanted left, MSNBC being the worse.......

The is no question FOX is slanted right but there must be a lot of people out there and I call them the silent majority who are slanted right because they knock the socks off all the cable news networks in the polls.......
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Here is a well known video...linked here in case you would like to view again or for the first time. It is very interesting.

It scares me that I ate it up...lived in fear...drank the kool-aid. When I created this forum, the television never changed channels.

I didn't believe that FoxNews was extreme biased and manipulating the public until I saw first hand FoxNews *ignoring* Ron Paul.

I also see this type of trend starting to form in MSNBC & CNN "shows".

Anyway, you decide.

OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
Why Outfoxed is BS:

1) It is based almost entirely on the actions of OPINION journalists like O'Reilly and Hannity, who, by definition, are not supposed to be neutral unlike OBJECTIVE journalists. The distinction between these two types of media is something liberals have not been able to grasp since conservatives first started complaining about media bias.

2) Every piece of "evidence" relies solely on the word of disgruntled former employees.

3) It is also based largely on the fact that a conservative owns the station. But oddly, liberals will never admit that, by this logic, CNN must also have had a liberal bias for all these years simply because Ted Turner owned it.

4) The few remotely specific "examples" it offers, like anchors saying, "some people think..." to introduce their own perspective have been done for decades by all sorts of former Democrat activists who now "objectively" disseminate the news. Ones who are particularly prone to asking these loaded questions are Tim Russert, George Stephanopolous, Bill Moyers, and Chris Matthews-all of whom use to work for Democrats in office (and there are many, many, many, many more). We don't allow this kind of conflict of interest in our justice system or anywhere else except in our media.

If you haven't seen it, you should. It is an unparalleled look at how to make crappy ineffectual propaganda.

These people do not know how to recognize ACTUAL media bias, and wouldn't know it if it bit them in the ***.
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Old 03-17-08, 11:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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When you are a Conservative you have 2 outlets to get your news on......Talk radio and FOX.........All of the other network outlets are slanted left, MSNBC being the worse.......

There is no question FOX is slanted right but there must be a lot of people out there and I call them the silent majority who are slanted right because they knock the socks off all the cable news networks in the polls.......
Thank you for your honest answer. Yes, FOX does put a spin on the news, and so do outlets who cater to Liberals. The various networks are going for those various markets, of course. However, instead of right hand spin or left hand spin, I would just like to hear the unvarnished truth, and make my own decision. I am an adult. I don't need any talking head to do my thinking for me.
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Old 03-17-08, 11:53 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thank you for your honest answer. Yes, FOX does put a spin on the news, and so do outlets who cater to Liberals. The various networks are going for those various markets, of course. However, instead of right hand spin or left hand spin, I would just like to hear the unvarnished truth, and make my own decision. I am an adult. I don't need any talking head to do my thinking for me.
How do you explain FOX always winning the ratings war since there are a lot more liberals then there are conservatives?
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How do you explain FOX always winning the ratings war since there are a lot more liberals then there are conservatives?
The liberal viewership is split between networks. If you add them together, Fox isn't even close.
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Old 03-18-08, 12:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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This is nothing more than a liberal hit piece by moveon.org and the New York Times. I understand Ron Paul supporters feeling left out to some degree by Fox News, but the public decided they weren't interested in Ron Paul before Fox News did.

This was Fox News rebuttal:

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Any news organization that thinks this story is legitimate is opening itself to having its copyrighted material taken out of context for partisan reasons. The illegal copyright infringement actions of Moveon.org in cooperation with the New York Times, including “cutting a deal” not to give FOX News Channel adequate time to react, is unprecedented. The New York Times corrupts the journalistic process by taking orders from a George Soros-funded web site – Soros is a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts. This is the real story. If any news organizations decide to make this an anti-FOX News story, then all of their material becomes fodder immediately for possible out of context and biased documentaries.

The former low-level FOX employees are hardly worth addressing. Some of the “sources” for this documentary never worked for FOX News Channel. Some left because of incompetence, and none expressed concern about editorial policy while employees. They represent fewer than 10 employees out of 2,000 over 8 years. Any news organization that believes this story is big and FOX News Channel is a problem will be challenged by FOX News Channel in the following manner:

If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.
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The liberal viewership is split between networks. If you add them together, Fox isn't even close.
Of course NP wouldn't factor in the fact that with all the "liberal bias" he claims going on every network but FOX that liberals would obviously have more choice and thus each network would get a smaller number of viewers then FOX. Add all the liberal news together and put them up against FOX. FOX loses out big time. It's kind of like filling a single glass with nothing but sh!t and 4 other glasses with a mix of sh!t and water then wondering why the first glass is sh!ttier then the rest. Never mind...it's exactly like that.
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When you are a Conservative you have 2 outlets to get your news on......Talk radio and FOX.........All of the other network outlets are slanted left, MSNBC being the worse.......

The is no question FOX is slanted right but there must be a lot of people out there and I call them the silent majority who are slanted right because they knock the socks off all the cable news networks in the polls.......
The debate is not about whether Fox News has a right slant; the debate is how has this bias misinformed the public? It is as much a non-issue arguing about the Left Liberal bias of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC. It would be idiotic to argue the OBVIOUS, but this is what we are seeing on forums all over the internet.

Look at some of the comments on this forum. You would think that Fox News, along with George Bush, are the worst things to happen in America since the Vietnam War.

It's absurd, it is nonsensical, but it also begs the question I have posed and still wanting an answer from the Fox haters; how is the American public less informed with Fox News as one choice out of many? If anything, thanks to cable, the American public is MUCH better informed and has MORE choices. Why is it that primarily left leaning people always seem to argue for LESS choice? The answer is OBVIOUS if one is intellectually honest.

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