Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism - Page 2

Sir Loin · 03-09-08, 06:04 AM

Fox News is insert claim here.

Cable news channel insert channel name is insert claim here.

Freely use your personal ideology to fill in the blanks.

vauge · 03-09-08, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mikhail

It supports conservatives but above all its a business.

Absolutely. As such, it is the consumers responsibility to expose the liability of their product.

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin

Wow. So I may sit here and stomach this sometime other than 1:45 in the morning...

Less than a minute in it has a go at private enterprise as if it is some pure great evil.

It next has someone high up from media matters, for gods sakes, telling me about "distortion".

Four and a half minutes in, a reagan tribute is "Propoganda".

I'll watch this tomorrow when I can tilt and adjust my seat and monitor so the picture looks straight, as right now its so slanted to the left my eyes are hurting trying to watch.

I do not agree with every word, but it shows a trend in Fox News and other "news" agencies. It is scary because quite a bit of it appears to be true. If you watch or watched Fox News as much as I did, you would be intimately familiar with all the sexual innuendos (doc mentions nothing about btw) and the misguided indirect questioning that gives a sense of answer during the question. I would literally sit there in my chair on my day off with my jaw touching the floor eager for more liberal slander. Fox News is not news, it is entertainment pure and simple. It should be billed as such...

Oh and the Reagan tribute, when you get through it will shock you as more than relevant - it takes quite awhile before it gets to that situation.

rathi · 03-09-08, 07:02 PM

All media has worked to make itself appealing and entertaining. Drama, sensational stories, emotional and gripping stories are more important than the truth. News is slanted so people can find news that tells them what they want to hear. Rampant speculation and stirring up rumors in the absence of fact is common. Calmly delivered stories with accurately sourced facts and refusing to make judgments until the information is known, is certainly something of the past. Every issue involved all the people "outraged" by it, as opposed to those who point out its flaws. Fox is the worst offender, but other networks are following the same trend. Basically they all try and imitate the Daily Show, using news for entertainment, except they claim to be news media, not a show on comedy central.

Personally, I wish news was delivered in the following format. A list of cold hard facts, a list of sources for those facts, followed by commentary on the facts.

akyron · 03-09-08, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vauge

Fox News is not news, it is entertainment pure and simple. It should be billed as such.

Meh. Sensationalism and sex sells. They are not doing anything other than competing for your viewing time like the rest of the media.

The weather channel....

"Marny Stanier Midkiff, 42, claims she was booted in the fall of 2003 as part of a reputed "reorganization" of the channel. Midkiff says in her suit that her boss encouraged female personalities to wear more revealing shirts. She had reported for the network for 16 years. "

Yes the weather channel has hot chicks in low cut blouses now......

akyron · 03-09-08, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rathi

Personally, I wish news was delivered in the following format. A list of cold hard facts, a list of sources for those facts, followed by commentary on the facts.

Thats been tried. They have a hard time making money off that.

Truth Detector · 03-17-08, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

You know, that's the first thing I hear from the Bush apologists. However, considering not only the ex FOX News employees, but the many who have resigned the Bush administration and told all, those who have resigned Federal agencies, the fired Republican prosecutors who Bush had hand picked that are speaking out, generals who have resigned the military, those who have quit the GAO, the ex CIA employees who are speaking out, the tempest in a teapot has become an avalanche. The cry of "sour grapes" just doesn't cut it anymore. Sooner or later, Bush is either going to have to accept a little responsibility for his actions while in office, or the Republican party, along with their enablers, such as FOX News, are going to go down in a big way. Their position that the American people are so gullible that they can still say "sour grapes" just isn't going to cut it any more. And if they are thinking about getting us back in line with fake terror alerts, that isn't going to cut it any more either. You can only lie so much before it all unravels. Sorry, but too many Americans have taken the red pill. The lies are all dead, and the rabbit hole no longer exists.

Ah yes, the evil Bush empire that conspires behind closed doors to take away our civil liberties eh?

So tell me something, were we MORE informed in the 1960s when the BIG three monopolized our airwaves? Did we become LESS informed when CNN came on the scene to provide 24 hours news? Are we now LESS informed having Fox News; If so, how so?

I don't expect any facts or credibility in your responses but it would be fascinating to see some FACTS from all the people with Left leaning tendencies to show how we are LESS informed today as a result of Fox news than say, in the 1960s.

I appologize in advance if I cannot drink enough cool-aid to have similar views but it is hardly the "red" pill as it is denial on your part.

Truth Detector · 03-17-08, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

Yea, I forgot. FOX News has always supported everybody but Bushneviks.

And no, I never said Bush was a Hitler. He is more like a Stalin.

Absurdity appears to be your forte' doesn't it Danarhea. That along with making wild eyed claims about how the "sky is falling."

danarhea · 03-17-08, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail

It supports conservatives but above all its a business.

Ahhh, and there's the rub. They have a show with a so-called no spin zone, yet spin while saying "We report, you decide". Thanx for the admission that FOX News is partisan.

NOTE: FOX News does not support Conservatives, but Neocons. There is a HUGE difference between the two, and there is no "Neo" in the word "Conservative".

Truth Detector · 03-17-08, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

Ahhh, and there's the rub. They have a show with a so-called no spin zone, yet spin while saying "We report, you decide". Thanx for the admission that FOX News is partisan.

NOTE: FOX News does not support Conservatives, but Neocons. There is a HUGE difference between the two, and there is no "Neo" in the word "Conservative".

.....because you say so right?

It beats CNN where the panel is usually a group of Liberals. We call that "group" think.

Again, you apparently are unable to distinguish a "talk" show from the "news." This is understandable because the sources you apparently think are more credible have blurred the lines between journalism and gossip, news reporting and sensationalism.

I notice no one from the left wants to answer my questions; how is it that we are less informed today having more choice, than the 1960s where most of the news was controlled by ABC, CBS and NBC?

danarhea · 03-17-08, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth Detector

.....because you say so right?

It beats CNN where the panel is usually a group of Liberals. We call that "group" think.

Again, you apparently are unable to distinguish a "talk" show from the "news." This is understandable because the sources you apparently think are more credible have blurred the lines between journalism and gossip, news reporting and sensationalism.

I notice no one from the left wants to answer my questions; how is it that we are less informed today having more choice, than the 1960s where most of the news was controlled by ABC, CBS and NBC?

Sigh... Another one of those nuts who calls everybody who disagrees with him left wingers. Just more tired old crap from another tired old troll. Once more for the record...

Who did I vote for in 2000? Pat Buchanan. Strike one.

Who have I constantly heaped praise upon for his choice of judges? Bush. Strike two.

What do I think about the Second Amendment? I am completely for the right to own and carry guns. Strike three.

What do I think about fiscal policy? About as Conservative as you can get. Strike four.

What do I think about the Federal government? I think it should be MUCH smaller. Strike five.

What do I think about the UN? We should get out of the UN and get the UN out of New York. Strike six.

Which primary did I vote in this year? The Republican primary. Strike seven.

Who did I vote for in 2004? Not Kerry, nor did I vote for ANY Democrat, Green or other Liberal. I split my vote between Libertarians and Republicans. Strike eight.

Who is my favorite state Senator? Texas Republican Senator Kyle Janek. Too bad he is retiring this year. I am going to miss him. Strike nine.

Oops, look what happened to you. You got three outs in just one single at bat. That is a first. I hope you are not planning to make a career out of politics. You would end up homeless, and it is easy to see why. You bring absolutely nothing to debate with, other than silly name calling.

What do I do with name callers and other trolls? I put them on my ignore list. Adios to you until you learn something my 11 year old niece already knows how to do. Discuss something with at least something that amounts to a passing resemblance of intelligence. Now let me sign this before I sign off from this thread -

- Yours truly,

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