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Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)[W:228]

Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Let them be disgusted, the word in of itself is not racist. It depends how the word is used that makes it offensive. President Obama did not call anyone a nigger.

So you support the use of the word as long as it's not directed against anyone?

Fascinating.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Two minutes after he tells her to leave using profanity she was leaving as the video clearly shows.

:shrug: two minutes after being told to leave she was still there, as the video clearly shows. Which is what Megyn said. What she didn't say was that the cops actions were justified by that, or that she was defending the cops actions. That's what Media matters said, which you have already been schooled on.

Megyn tried to give the cop a pass by saying the girl was no saint either.

Quite the contrary - goodness or wrongdoing is not zero-sum. By acknowledging that the girl also was no angel, Megyn in now way gave the cop a pass, and even made clear that she wasn't.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Moderator's Warning:
The topic is: 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Please refocus on the OP of this thread and if y'all want to discuss the events in McKinney, please go find one of the many threads on that topic.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

So you'd be okay with Stephan Harper using the N word in a broadcast to your nation, intended to heal woulds between cultures and races?

FTR I'm a supporter of the NDP from abroad, not a Canadian citizen. The statement is correct regardless of who says it.

Deneen Borelli was correct, and it was beneath the dignity of the office. The planet didn't heal much at all with those goofy and poorly thought out remarks.

There's nothing incorrect in Obama's statement. It's ridiculous that people think racism suddenly disappeared from society when the VRA and CRA were passed.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

There's a conversation going on right now and the families of those Charleston victims demonstrating their strength of character, and goodness, was an opportunity for everyone to draw together, and in Charleston and many other areas of the country it did.

On the other hand we have the President of the United States using the ugliest term available (used mainly by Blacks) when he could have built on what those amazing Christians said. Obama is a jerk.

WHAT !!!! Just to entertain me what was his complete statement saying to you? I don't care what TV pundits said on either side. Use your on intelligence and forget for one minute that Obama said it and then explain to me what he said in your own words.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Considering his track record, Obama totally deserves the scrutiny and criticism by Conservatives_

And had the Main Stream Media been doing its job, he would have been exposed a long time ago_

Hmmm; I wonder who could be to blame for that?!

Certainly not the people whose dominate strategy is to silence anyone that dares to disagree with them with accusations of being a "racist"! :sarcasticclap

Lets be real here. One man didn't cause a change in race relations in this country. If anyone actually believes this, then people are more ignorant about race relations than projected.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

There's a conversation going on right now and the families of those Charleston victims demonstrating their strength of character, and goodness, was an opportunity for everyone to draw together, and in Charleston and many other areas of the country it did.

On the other hand we have the President of the United States using the ugliest term available (used mainly by Blacks) when he could have built on what those amazing Christians said. Obama is a jerk.

This is another part of that same interview

“I always tell young people, in particular, do not say that nothing has changed when it comes to race in America, unless you’ve lived through being a black man in the 1950s or ’60s or ’70s,” the President told Marc Maron. It is incontrovertible that race relations have improved significantly during my lifetime and yours.”

That damn race baiting jerk !!!!

I notice this for a long time about the right. They are dead silent when Obama speaks about unity as a country. But when he calls out s*** that is clearly out there, he is labeled as someone who is dividing the country.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

There's nothing incorrect in Obama's statement. It's ridiculous that people think racism suddenly disappeared from society when the VRA and CRA were passed.
No, it hasn't disappeared and it never will disappear. There will always be racism in the US just as there is everywhere.

Knowing this (perhaps) the President, as leader of the country, has a few options. He can talk about Jim Crow Laws, the stealing of the land from Native Americans, the time it took for women to get the vote, and all the negatives leftists consistently trot out to defame their own country.

Or he could take the high road as President of all Americans and say that things have gotten much better and used those Black Christians who lost their friends and family as an example of where the country can go. Instead he looks to the past, not as a leader but as a race hustler, something he has been all his life. That's why he went to listen to Rev, Rice for 20 years, is pals with Al Sharpton, won't charge Black Panthers for voter intimidation, doesn't enforce gun laws already on the books and never mentions the number of Black people being murdered by other Blacks.

These problems are endemic in many inner cities but Barrack Obama will still be talking Jim Crow and Slavery on his death bed. He cannot move on, hardly a quality anyone should look for in a leader.
 
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This is another part of that same interview. That damn race baiting jerk !!!! I notice this for a long time about the right. They are dead silent when Obama speaks about unity as a country. But when he calls out s*** that is clearly out there, he is labeled as someone who is dividing the country.
Here are the applicable portions of the interview.

"The legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and discrimination in almost every institution of our lives—that casts a long shadow. And that’s still part of our DNA that’s passed on. We’re not cured of it," Obama said in the interview taped on Friday and published on Monday.

"Racism, we are not cured of. And it's not just a matter of it not being polite to say 'nigger' in public," the President continued. "That's not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It's not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don't, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior."

Obama also addressed the shooting at a historic black church in Charleston last week and his call for stricter gun laws.

"It's not enough just to feel bad," he said about the attack. "There are actions that could be taken to make events like this less likely. One of those actions we could take would be to enhance some basic common-sense gun safety laws."
Had this low level Community Organizer enforced existing gun laws these people may have been alive today. Were gun laws enforced in Chicago and Baltimore, many more people would be alive today. And note he is still going on about 200 and 300 years ago. Is this supplying leadership?

This guy is only marginally brighter than his acolytes.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Lets be real here. One man didn't cause a change in race relations in this country. If anyone actually believes this, then people are more ignorant about race relations than projected.
Okay; "lets be real"!

I prefer that you simply ignore my post altogether, than respond with a dodge_

A "dodge" usually results from the lack of a rational sensible argument_

The lack of a "rational sensible argument" is usually the result of being poorly informed_

And I apologize if this seems cruel Rcart but none the less, it is very good advise!
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Lets be real here. One man didn't cause a change in race relations in this country. If anyone actually believes this, then people are more ignorant about race relations than projected.
The President of the USA is not just 'one man'. If he was his musings would never have made headlines.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

No, it hasn't disappeared and it never will disappear. There will always be racism in the US just as there is everywhere.

Even if it is impossible to eliminate racism from society, that doesn't mean we should not strive for that goal.

Knowing this (perhaps) the President, as leader of the country, has a few options. He can talk about Jim Crow Laws, the stealing of the land from Native Americans, the time it took for women to get the vote, and all the negatives leftists consistently trot out to defame their own country.

Or he could take the high road as President of all Americans and say that things have gotten much better and used those Black Christians who lost their friends and family as an example of where the country can go. Instead he looks to the past, not as a leader but as a race hustler, something he has been all his life. That's why he went to listen to Rev, Rice for 20 years, is pals with Al Sharpton, won't charge Black Panthers for voter intimidation, doesn't enforce gun laws already on the books and never mentions the number of Black people being murdered by other Blacks.

These problems are endemic in many inner cities but Barrack Obama will still be talking Jim Crow and Slavery on his death bed. He cannot move on, hardly a quality anyone should look for in a leader.

It's not focusing on the past so much as it is focusing on how events of the past affect us today.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Even if it is impossible to eliminate racism from society, that doesn't mean we should not strive for that goal.
And you share his philosophy that repeated mentioning of Slavery and Jim Crow laws, initiated by his party btw, will somehow improve race relations? Can you explain this rational?
It would seem to me that it would only engender bitterness and hatred from Backs and guilt and frustration from Whites, despite few being alive during the Jim Crow years and none being alive during the slavery period. What do you believe is the point in regurgitating the past rather then working on the present and planning on the future? Constant reminders of past sins, pointing fingers who have long been dead, does nothing to improve race relations today. It would seem more like a political opportunity than a genuine attempt at a solution.
It's not focusing on the past so much as it is focusing on how events of the past affect us today.
Is there anyone in the USA over the age of 15 who doesn't know about America's past? Shouldn't a President of all Americans be looking toward the future and what he sees as all Americans, whatever the past, working together toward a common goal?

You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.
Rahm Emanuel Quotes - BrainyQuote
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

And you share his philosophy that repeated mentioning of Slavery and Jim Crow laws, initiated by his party btw, will somehow improve race relations? Can you explain this rational?

We are talking about the contents of an interview here. You should not expect grand sweeping societal changes to come from an interview. Obama is discussing race relations and the flaws that currently exist with race relations in society. Just like today's SC ruling did not mean that gays are suddenly equal and don't face discrimination, the passing of civil rights did not make obstacles that racial minorities face disappear. Obama is simply opening up discussion about the fact that despite believe so, racism is not dead.

Btw, it's nothing but a cheap shot to imply that the Democrats are the real racists for supporting slavery and Jim Crow in the past when it's Barack Obama we're talking about here.

It would seem to me that it would only engender bitterness and hatred from Backs and guilt and frustration from Whites, despite few being alive during the Jim Crow years and none being alive during the slavery period. What do you believe is the point in regurgitating the past rather then working on the present and planning on the future? Constant reminders of past sins, pointing fingers who have long been dead, does nothing to improve race relations today. It would seem more like a political opportunity than a genuine attempt at a solution.

As I said previously, it opens up a discussion about racism in society. The sooner people are realistic about the realities of racism, the sooner we can work to effectively curtail it.

Is there anyone in the USA over the age of 15 who doesn't know about America's past? Shouldn't a President of all Americans be looking toward the future and what he sees as all Americans, whatever the past, working together toward a common goal?


Rahm Emanuel Quotes - BrainyQuote

Yeah sure, working towards a common goal of ending racism; we can't do that until people accept the realities of what racism is today. And of course people understand factually what has happened in our past, but if the past week has been a sign of anything at all, it's a sign that racist attitudes have not been eliminated from society. I mean the blatant defense of the Confederate Flag and even the Confederacy just show how willfully ignorant some Americans are on the issue of race relations.
 
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Even if it is impossible to eliminate racism from society, that doesn't mean we should not strive for that goal.
Of course not. But how does talking about slavery, Jim Crow laws, the treatment of Native Americans, the Whites Only hotels, etc. help put an end to racism? Inn fact it only initiates more resentment, and we can see that in the streets of many American cities. Neither of the Obamas seem to have loved their country because all they do is complain about its past rather than pointing out the good and presenting hope for the future, pointing out that God loves us all, despite our race or beliefs, and all Americans should stand together. But that message would be too positive.
It's not focusing on the past so much as it is focusing on how events of the past affect us today.
That's probably learned in school by the time we are 10. After that the President should speak to the nation as adults and show how a better country can be created with the will of the people, and the leadership, to change it.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

We are talking about the contents of an interview here. You should not expect grand sweeping societal changes to come from an interview. Obama is discussing race relations and the flaws that currently exist with race relations in society. Just like today's SC ruling did not mean that gays are suddenly equal and don't face discrimination, the passing of civil rights did not make obstacles that racial minorities face disappear. Obama is simply opening up discussion about the fact that despite believe so, racism is not dead.
Obama has had over six years to try and create better race relations but instead they have gotten worse, where now there is talk of 'White Supremacy' and the return of Jim Crow. And Barrack Obama, with his dwelling on the past rather than hope for the future is more of a problem than a solution.
Btw, it's nothing but a cheap shot to imply that the Democrats are the real racists for supporting slavery and Jim Crow in the past when it's Barack Obama we're talking about here.
You'll find that it is the Democrats who are usually trotting out the 'racist' charge.
As I said previously, it opens up a discussion about racism in society. The sooner people are realistic about the realities of racism, the sooner we can work to effectively curtail it.
It's been discussed since the Civil War. What more could possibly be said that hasn't been said already? If you can think of anything someone has missed about race, please say it now so we can all move on.
Yeah sure, working towards a common goal of ending racism; we can't do that until people accept the realities of what racism is today.
What are those 'realities' and what government program should be initiated to solve them?
And of course people understand factually what has happened in our past, but if the past week has been a sign of anything at all, it's a sign that racist attitudes have not been eliminated from society. I mean the blatant defense of the Confederate Flag and even the Confederacy just show how willfully ignorant some Americans are on the issue of race relations.
Few cared about that flag until the uneducated loser murdered those fine people. Now the elimination of a flag is hoped to solve the 'racist' problem. Well we both know that won't happen because as soon as that flag is down Obama, or anyone like him, will mention Slavery, Jim Crow, separate drinking fountains and on and on.

As long as people dwell in the past don't expect much of a future.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

Few cared about that flag until the uneducated loser murdered those fine people.

I think that one quote wonderfully illustrates the disconnect between those who believe the heritage of the Confederacy was and is a matter of Southern pride in independence and family values...and those who understand what the heritage of the Confederacy really is.
 
Re: Fox Guest Calls Obama 'The Rapper-In-Chief' For Using N-Word (VIDEO)

I think that one quote wonderfully illustrates the disconnect between those who believe the heritage of the Confederacy was and is a matter of Southern pride in independence and family values...and those who understand what the heritage of the Confederacy really is.
It should have been clear that I was talking of the flag as a symbol of racism, and the subsequent removal will do little to solve any racial problems. When there are no active problems the Left will once again return to Jim Crow, Slavery, etc. in order to continue the victimization process.
 
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It should have been clear that I was talking of the flag as a symbol of racism, and the subsequent removal will do little to solve any racial problems. When there are no active problems the Left will once again return to Jim Crow, Slavery, etc. in order to continue the victimization process.

I'm not calling you stupid, but your post is about the stupidest post I have ever seen in any forum I've ever participated in. You are apparently of the opinion that the Left - nearly half of which is now comprised by minorities - would CHOOSE to return to Jim Crow and Slavery "in order to continue the victimization process."

That is stupid. Idiotic. I would expect that out of Michelle Bachmann ("Outlaw Mexican food and all the illegal Mexicans will go away!")...but...Dude.
 
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I'm not calling you stupid, but your post is about the stupidest post I have ever seen in any forum I've ever participated in. You are apparently of the opinion that the Left - nearly half of which is now comprised by minorities - would CHOOSE to return to Jim Crow and Slavery "in order to continue the victimization process."
Before you begin suggesting stupidity you should read what I posted, not what you think I posted. Nowhere did I say anyone would CHOOSE to return to the days of Slavery or Jim Crow. I never even hinted at such a thing.

That is stupid. Idiotic. I would expect that out of Michelle Bachmann ("Outlaw Mexican food and all the illegal Mexicans will go away!")...but...Dude.
Yes, it would be all of that if that was what I said, but of course that was not what I said and how you concluded such a thing is beyond my understanding.

But then again you also misquoted Michelle Bachmann so this could be a habit of yours.
 
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