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Everyone's Trying Really Hard Not to Call the Germanwings Co-Pilot a Terrorist

nota bene said:
But they didn't. The black box recording indicates that the passengers were unaware of what was happening until the very last seconds.
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The black box is just giving the sounds of their screams. I was on a plane in the 70's landing in Los Angeles and just as we were ready to hit the runway another small plane came into the picture. Our plane had to suddently come back up and try again. During that period of evasive maneuver it was totally silent in the plane. After we landed people all started talking and thanking our pilot. I realize it was only for seconds but people were just clutching their arm rests and holding their breath.
So it is hard to say just how long of a period of time these people knew the problem. Surely the people in first class could see the crew's reaction.
 
Born Free said:
Agree, and he could give a **** the horror he put all those passengers through. Why in the hell did he not pop himself in the head and leave everyone else alone.
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If someone suffering serious mental illness of this type were thinking rationally, they wouldn't kill themselves in the first place. Such ignorance and aggression is probably a major factor in him (and many people like him) hiding his illness, allowing it to reach this tragic end.
 
spud_meister said:
Brown people are terrorists, black people are thugs, white people are mentally ill.
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When you look at the numbers ie., how many commercial flights there have been since the beginning of commercial aviation this is actually against the odds of one persons mind flying a plane to kill. How many nuts have you seen in a week on the highway much lees in 90 years of flights all over the world?
 
BrewerBob said:
This is true. He was not a terrorist, but he definitely terrorized the passengers. 8 minutes is a long time to know you are about to die.
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Greetings, BrewerBob. :2wave:

Well, he accomplished getting everyone to know his name. Did he not think of what he might do to his family, the selfish jerk! Apparently not! And how does killing so many people hurt his girlfriend - is she responsible for his actions after she was no longer in his life? Is she supposed to feel guilty about this?
 
polgara said:
Greetings, BrewerBob. :2wave:

Well, he accomplished getting everyone to know his name. Did he not think of what he might do to his family, the selfish jerk! Apparently not! And how does killing so many people hurt his girlfriend - is she responsible for his actions after she was no longer in his life? Is she supposed to feel guilty about this?
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That's what so many guys THINK will happen if they do something bad as an act of revenge. The joke is the ex girlfriend / wife doesn't care and you just relieve them of any guilt they might carry...
 
Now the data recorder shows he was gunning the plane over and over as it descended striking even more terror in to the doomed passengers. So they knew from the captain banging on the door, the plane obviously headed downward and now he was gunning the engines. Truly a mad man and sadist.
 
jet57 said:
He is different. He was mentally disturbed and thus far shows no signs of religious intent. Your definition is really way out there.
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Terrorists don't necessarily have to be religious in intent -- McVeigh was a terrorist by any definition of the word and he didn't use religion as a motivation.

Terrorism is violence, often on a mass scale, with the intent of securing a political or social aim. That doesn't appear to be the case here; it was simply a very deranged person who sadly snuffed out 150 lives because he wanted to end his own.
 
Kobie said:
Terrorists don't necessarily have to be religious in intent -- McVeigh was a terrorist by any definition of the word and he didn't use religion as a motivation.

Terrorism is violence, often on a mass scale, with the intent of securing a political or social aim. That doesn't appear to be the case here; it was simply a very deranged person who sadly snuffed out 150 lives because he wanted to end his own.
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You are correct. I missed that.
 
Paschendale said:
White people don't get referred to as terrorists. I don't think it's particularly relevant to this instance, but the overall trend is still there. Muslims and dark skinned people are called terrorists. Whites and Christians are called something else, usually in an attempt to single them out as an aberration to the norm.
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What was his political agenda?
 
He's not a terrorist, he's a suicidal mass murderer.

Folks are too obsessed with the word "terrorism."
 
BrewerBob said:
This is true. He was not a terrorist, but he definitely terrorized the passengers. 8 minutes is a long time to know you are about to die.
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1) I think he was a mass murderer, not a terrorist. He could have easily plowed the plane into a building, but he just dove it into the mountains.

2) I have said this before, sure they went through hell, but if you are going to die by someone else's hand - this is probably ideal. You felt no physical pain (like torture or bleeding to death), death was instant and you had time to phone your loved ones and say goodbye (well - quickly). If I gotta go through murder - that sounds about the best way to do it.
Honestly, were I to be murdered, I would rather have it happen this way then just die instantly and never know what happened. Also, I would be VERY curious how I would handle it. Would I freak out before the end? Or would I stay calm? Life is about tests, imo...how you handle difficult situations. And this would be the ultimate one. Do I crack under pressure or stay cool?
(not that I want to find out...well, not yet anyway. Maybe when I am old and life holds little interest).

I am not saying it was not a hideous act, I am just sayin'...
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Strictly speaking, he didn't terrorise them, he set the plane to descend, not plummet, and he didn't announce what he was doing. If the pilot with the delicate bladder hadn't started kicking and pounding at a door he knew he couldn't open then the passengers might not even have noticed. If anyone terrorised them it was him! Even so, the screaming didn't start until the last few seconds.
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Really? The pilot kicking the door was the one terrorizing the passengers? :doh
 
PoS said:
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I don't know, the news I've watched it seems it goes more:

Arab: Probably Terrorism
Black: Probably a gangster thug
White: Maybe a terrorist (often more: maybe a right wing terrorist)
 
Paschendale said:
White people don't get referred to as terrorists.
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Timothy McVeigh? Irish Republican Army? Weather Underground? We called all of these terrorists.
 
RDS said:
He is no different from terrorists who crashed the plane into WTC.
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I personally don't equate this heinous crime with terrorism. Sadly, real terrorists often utilize mentally unbalanced people as utensils to commit real acts of terrorism.
 
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