The stats: ABC, NBC, CBS on "hands uo, don't shoot" and DOJ findings.

Erod · Mar 27, 2015

pbrauer said:
Corporate sensationalist media $$$$$$

In the meantime, you've got pro athletes, and millions of black kids, still running around with their hands up claiming that's what happened.

washunut · Mar 27, 2015

Erod said:
In the meantime, you've got pro athletes, and millions of black kids, still running around with their hands up claiming that's what happened.

I heard that Rev Al said he was misquoted. He meant to say hand out, not hands up!

PeteEU · Mar 27, 2015

Ferguson Report: DOJ Will Not Charge Darren Wilson in Michael Brown Shooting - ABC News

Accounts that Brown put his hands up are "inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence," the report says.

so much for not reporting it.... let me guess it was on the webpage so it does not count?

And the very fact that Fox News finds that this part is more important than a story of institutional racism.. which Fox News has been saying there was none of in Ferguson.. well where is Fox News apology for this error?

Grim17 · Mar 28, 2015

PeteEU said:
Ferguson Report: DOJ Will Not Charge Darren Wilson in Michael Brown Shooting - ABC News

so much for not reporting it.... let me guess it was on the webpage so it does not count?

And the very fact that Fox News finds that this part is more important than a story of institutional racism.. which Fox News has been saying there was none of in Ferguson.. well where is Fox News apology for this error?

Do you not know the difference between a TV news broadcast and a story on a webpage?

ABC did not report it on their morning or evening newscasts.

PeteEU · Mar 28, 2015

Grim17 said:
Do you not know the difference between a TV news broadcast and a story on a webpage?

ABC did not report it on their morning or evening newscasts.

Did they report it later on?

After all they DID report the important part of the story.. unlike Fox News did.. yes that important part was and still is... INSTITUTIONAL RACISM in the Ferguson City government and police force.

blackjack50 · Mar 28, 2015

PeteEU said:
Did they report it later on?

After all they DID report the important part of the story.. unlike Fox News did.. yes that important part was and still is... INSTITUTIONAL RACISM in the Ferguson City government and police force.

You mean the institutional racism was the most important news in a JUSTIFIED shooting that absolutely NOTHING to do with skin color?

How about this: the story had NOTHING to do with racism until certain groups believed they could profit off of said racism. The "institutional racism" wasn't a factor between DW and MB. BUT the news had 0 issue making that so.

Grim17 · Mar 28, 2015

PeteEU said:
Did they report it later on?

To my knowledge, no they didn't. That's not the kind of story that runs on multiple days. Stories like that normally run once on their morning news show and once on their evening newscast.

After all they DID report the important part of the story.. unlike Fox News did.. yes that important part was and still is... INSTITUTIONAL RACISM in the Ferguson City government and police force.

So informing black people all over the country who've been chanting "hands up, don't shoot", that they were mistaken when they believed that a black man was executed by a white police officer when trying to surrender, isn't that important to you and not what you would call "news worthy?"

I guess the fact that their anger from that false narrative that so far has resulted in 4 cops being shot, 2 being killed, the endangering of police across the country, riots, arson, looting, the destruction of entire neighborhoods and millions of dollars in unnecessary damages, doesn't in your view merit any mention by 2 of the 3 most watched news networks in the nation... Instead you think it's more important to not only feed their anger, but for them to continue to believe the lie that Michael Brown put his hands up, said "don't shoot", and was executed by a white cop.

If I live to be a thousand, I will never understand liberal values and priorities.

Renae · Mar 28, 2015

Grim17 said:
Especially when that narrative they promoted contributed to the false anger and rage that led to 4 cops being shot, 2 being killed, endangering police across the country, riots, arson, looting, the destruction of entire neighborhoods and millions of dollars in unessisary damages.

Necessary sacrifice for the revolution comrade.

PeteEU · Mar 28, 2015

Grim17 said:
To my knowledge, no they didn't. That's not the kind of story that runs on multiple days. Stories like that normally run once on their morning news show and once on their evening newscast.

LOL maybe on Fox News, but even over here it was a multi-day story and if you look at the various news websites including their video vaults, then there were plenty of stories about Ferguson for over a week.

So informing black people all over the country who've been chanting "hands up, don't shoot", that they were mistaken when they believed that a black man was executed by a white police officer when trying to surrender, isn't that important to you and not what you would call "news worthy?"

No, it is relative. Okay lets put it this way... there is a robbery, 100 dollars is reportedly stolen but in reality it was not.. but the robbery also cost the lives for 5 people.. but the news in this case is only reporting that everyone else lied about the 100 dollars being stolen and they should apologize for lying..

I guess the fact that their anger from that false narrative that so far has resulted in 4 cops being shot, 2 being killed, the endangering of police across the country, riots, arson, looting, the destruction of entire neighborhoods and millions of dollars in unnecessary damages, doesn't in your view merit any mention by 2 of the 3 most watched news networks in the nation... Instead you think it's more important to not only feed their anger, but for them to continue to believe the lie that Michael Brown put his hands up, said "don't shoot", and was executed by a white cop.

If you seriously think that "dont shoot" was the trigger for their anger.. then you have a serious problem reality wise. Their anger, like many black communities across the US is because of the institutional racism in the local government and police forces. The "dont shoot" was just a cherry on top of the cake, because the shooting of an UNARMED person was the trigger after decades of racism from the Ferguson City council and police force.

If I live to be a thousand, I will never understand liberal values and priorities.

The "values and priorities" you should be questioning are your own, if you fundamentally believe that a lie of "dont shoot" is more important than decades of institutional racism and that this "dont shoot" was the trigger for the violence and protests... time to get out of the bubble called right wing lala land.

PeteEU · Mar 28, 2015

stonewall50 said:
You mean the institutional racism was the most important news in a JUSTIFIED shooting that absolutely NOTHING to do with skin color?

God, do you understand the concept of institutional racism in a police force and local government? The shooting was only justified because there could not be found any evidence of racism in this case, but the whole department was and is a cestpool of racist behaviour along with local government. The skin color of the person is very much relevant because of the institutional racism that has infected official Ferguson. Did the police officer target the dead guy because of his skin color.. most likely but it is a hell of a problem proving it in a court of law, especially if he denies it. A black dead mans word against a police officer.. yea that goes just great in a city with institutional racism infecting all aspects of official government.

How about this: the story had NOTHING to do with racism until certain groups believed they could profit off of said racism. The "institutional racism" wasn't a factor between DW and MB. BUT the news had 0 issue making that so.

It has EVERYTHING to do with racism. People in Ferguson has for decades been under a racist police state type system, where fines was the main source of income for the police and local government and these fines were given out to mostly the black community. The DOJ report is very clear on this subject and it is a well known situation across the US as exposed by John Oliver the other week on his show. Of course you will now attack John Oliver instead of looking at the facts.. but hey that is how the right wing works.

blackjack50 · Mar 28, 2015

PeteEU said:
God, do you understand the concept of institutional racism in a police force and local government? The shooting was only justified because there could not be found any evidence of racism in this case,

So Darren Wilson is guilty until proven innocent of racism.

but the whole department was and is a cestpool of racist behaviour along with local government.

Even if it is...it has nothing to do with the individual case.

The skin color of the person is very much relevant because of the institutional racism that has infected official Ferguson. Did the police officer target the dead guy because of his skin color.. most likely but it is a hell of a problem proving it in a court of law, especially if he denies it.

Except he marched the description of someone who robbed a store. Which he heard on dispatch.

A black dead mans word against a police officer.. yea that goes just great in a city with institutional racism infecting all aspects of official government.

Except you are doing the same thing in reverse. You are assuming the guilt of the officer because he was a dead black man.

It has EVERYTHING to do with racism. People in Ferguson has for decades been under a racist police state type system, where fines was the main source of income for the police and local government and these fines were given out to mostly the black community. The DOJ report is very clear on this subject and it is a well known situation across the US as exposed by John Oliver the other week on his show. Of course you will now attack John Oliver instead of looking at the facts.. but hey that is how the right wing works.

No. Because John Oliver doesn't matter. DW and mb were the only relevant parties in that case. You believe DW is guilty till proven innocent. AND...despite having NOT evidence of guilt...you have assigned a guilty verdict to DW. Not mb. Why? Skin color.

Mason66 · Mar 28, 2015

1750Texan said:
I don't know if YOU believed that "Hand Up Don't Shoot" was a direct quote from Micheal Brown...But most people understand this to be an "chant" representative of the situation.

I don't know about you...I didn't need a DOJ investigation to tell me that "Hands Up don't shoot" was not a direct quote from Micheal Brown.

No one has ever said Michael Brown ever said anything.

The stats: ABC, NBC, CBS on "hands uo, don't shoot" and DOJ findings.

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