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Emails Show WH Tried to Muzzle Sharyl Attkisson

It doesn't have traction because its complete silliness, even sillier than Benghazi or the IRS issue. Look, the government does lots of stupid and silly things. They do not all elevate to "scandal" status.

It amazes me that people wander down these rabbit holes, probably because they get their news from WND and other political porn sites that are there so to manipulate them, knowing they lack the education and/or gray matter to argue the real issues.
Initially it wasn't a scandal, but it was a screw up that was major enough to get people killed, and if they tried to cover it up, THAT's a scandal.
 
Yeah, thanks for quoting the post I already linked after you spend quite a long time ignoring the part that said "I'm sorry to say I didn't think of this first."
Whoops. For some reason I missed that sentence. Sorry! :3oops:

With respect to our conversation, it doesn't matter where I got it (I got it from Power Line blog). What matters is whether it makes sense (it does). People who don't accept those two propositions may be inclined to try to focus on distractions.



To me, it doesn't make sense. John Hinderaker misinterprets the "She’s out of control" it doesn't mean the Obama administration expects the media to be under their control, it means Sharyl Attkisson is reporting something that isn't true. (leaked to her by Issa, which explains why the other news orgs doesn't have it) I found I think the post from Powerline your read and bolded those things that were IMO misinterpreted by Hinderaker. You think it makes sense, I don't, so let's leave it at that as I really couldn't care less what you think.

Bombshell: Attorney General Targeted Attkisson [Updated] | Power Line

Excerpt:
The context of the emails is concern about news reports that put Eric Holder at the center of the Fast and Furious scandal. In the first email, at 7:46, Schmaler says that there were no Fast and Furious stories from the NY Times, the Associated Press, Reuters, the Washington Post, NBC or Bloomberg. But there is one person out of step: Sharyl Attkisson. Schmaler writes:

I’m also calling Sharryl’s editor and reaching out to Schieffer. She’s out of control.

Which is highly revealing: the Obama administration expects reporters to be under control. As, of course, they generally are, like the Times, the Post, AP, etc. Schultz replies:

Good. Her piece was really bad for AG.

We can’t have that. We need to get the one reporter willing to dig into the story under control. But Schultz can’t seem to believe the White House’s good fortune:

Why do you think no one else wrote? Were they not fed the documents?

Apparently the others are all loyal Democrats. Schultz adds:



I sent [National Journal's] Susan Davis your way. She’s writing on Issa/FandF and I said you could load her up on the leaks, etc.

Three days later, as Judicial Watch notes, Ms. Davis published a hit piece on Issa that was later labelled “definitive” by another left-wing journalist.

It is obvious that the Department of Justice has withheld other emails that are relevant to the above exchange. Schmaler’s reference to “Sharryl” is out of the blue. There must have been prior references to her, but they do not show up in a search of the documents that have been produced. That means that they have been either redacted or withheld. Still, what we have is bad enough: the Obama administration targeted the only reporter who was following up on Fast and Furious, and went to her editor and to elder statesman Bob Schieffer to pull her off the case–to get her, as they said, under “control.”


Schultz and Schmaler were concerned about Fox, too. This exchange is entertaining; again, the earlier email is at the bottom.

 
So in a nutshell this whole worthless thread and the underlying theory that the WH tried to suppress the free press is based off of a couple of emails. Emails that describe a reporter who;
1. was leaked self-serving information from a congressman PROVEN to have lied to manipulate "scandals" by the current administration
2. reported on those leaks without checking the underlying facts in her story
3. In that report accused the Attorney General of committing perjury which was belied by the facts if she had bothered to check them
4. The PR Office at the Office Attorney General is angry about the the false accusations of perjury made in the story
5. The PR Office then contacts the reporters editor to voice their objections to the story and why
6. The PR Office then reaches out to another RESPECTED journalist at the same organization to explain their side of the story and why they think the article should be called into question
7. and lastly called the reporter in question as "out of control" in one email

And this entire chain events is considered to be a smoking gun on how the White House tried to silence the press....Are you guys joking????

Lets no forget that then someone's sees that this "smoking gun" is clearly ineffectual and proceeds to conjure up a conspiracy where we have White House staff members spending what would have to be THOUSANDS of man hours pouring over nearly half a million emails and manually editing. This person makes this claim with no proof, no evidence and no logical assumptions on how it conceivably be done.

And people wonder why this has not been reported on by the MSM???????? go figure.
 
So in a nutshell this whole worthless thread and the underlying theory that the WH tried to suppress the free press is based off of a couple of emails. Emails that describe a reporter who;
1. was leaked self-serving information from a congressman PROVEN to have lied to manipulate "scandals" by the current administration
2. reported on those leaks without checking the underlying facts in her story
3. In that report accused the Attorney General of committing perjury which was belied by the facts if she had bothered to check them
4. The PR Office at the Office Attorney General is angry about the the false accusations of perjury made in the story
5. The PR Office then contacts the reporters editor to voice their objections to the story and why
6. The PR Office then reaches out to another RESPECTED journalist at the same organization to explain their side of the story and why they think the article should be called into question
7. and lastly called the reporter in question as "out of control" in one email

And this entire chain events is considered to be a smoking gun on how the White House tried to silence the press....Are you guys joking????

Lets no forget that then someone's sees that this "smoking gun" is clearly ineffectual and proceeds to conjure up a conspiracy where we have White House staff members spending what would have to be THOUSANDS of man hours pouring over nearly half a million emails and manually editing. This person makes this claim with no proof, no evidence and no logical assumptions on how it conceivably be done.

And people wonder why this has not been reported on by the MSM???????? go figure.

The thread has needed someone to anchor the hyper-partisan left in the debate, and I'm glad to see you can do that. Thank you.
 
The thread has needed someone to anchor the hyper-partisan left in the debate, and I'm glad to see you can do that. Thank you.

Whatever you need to tell yourself...
 
The thread has needed someone to anchor the hyper-partisan left in the debate, and I'm glad to see you can do that. Thank you.

And you didn't refute anything he posted. But you aren't partisan, Jack?
 
His post was a pile of agit-prop and half truths. I like to stay above that.

That's what you posted in your OP -a pile of agit-prop and half truths- and that was his point.
 
His post was a pile of agit-prop and half truths. I like to stay above that.

Ye olde if I can't argue with what they say call them a commie trick...I know it well.

FYI if you are going to use multisyllabic words you should at least spell them right...
 
Ye olde if I can't argue with what they say call them a commie trick...I know it well.

FYI if you are going to use multisyllabic words you should at least spell them right...

I actually am sympathetic to real communists. They are often rigorous thinkers. A KGB Lt. Col. once defined disinformation for me as "similar to truth." That's how I'd describe your post, and I don't care to get down in the weeds pulling it apart. Out of curiosity, what misspelling did you see?
 
I actually am sympathetic to real communists. They are often rigorous thinkers. A KGB Lt. Col. once defined disinformation for me as "similar to truth." That's how I'd describe your post, and I don't care to get down in the weeds pulling it apart. Out of curiosity, what misspelling did you see?
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There is no hyphen in agitprop. By the way it was also a misuse of the term as it is an adjective and not a noun. That being said it is also a what I term a "train-wreck" word. The term agitprop hasn't been used outside academic circles since before the end of the cold war. It is also more than a bit improper in use as there is no "hidden truth" I am either trying to cover up or hide. The purpose of my post was to expose the underlying suppositions of this thread as a complete pile of crap. A rather stinky one at that. Ergo you cannot come to a proper conclusion if your underlying suppositions are incorrect...at least not logically. Which is exactly what I am trying to point out. If you want to critique propaganda I would start with what Judicial Watch and Issa et al trying to do.
 
Most transparent administration ever, or most Nixonian in history?

I seem to recall the Bush admin had a dim view of reporters critical of them as well. Which really only prices that nothing changes when we keep voting for the same two gangs.
 
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There is no hyphen in agitprop. By the way it was also a misuse of the term as it is an adjective and not a noun. That being said it is also a what I term a "train-wreck" word. The term agitprop hasn't been used outside academic circles since before the end of the cold war. It is also more than a bit improper in use as there is no "hidden truth" I am either trying to cover up or hide. The purpose of my post was to expose the underlying suppositions of this thread as a complete pile of crap. A rather stinky one at that. Ergo you cannot come to a proper conclusion if your underlying suppositions are incorrect...at least not logically. Which is exactly what I am trying to point out. If you want to critique propaganda I would start with what Judicial Watch and Issa et al trying to do.

One for you and one for me. There's no hyphen, but it's a noun.

Agitprop - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

As for use, I fear you need to get out more. The term is commonly used down to the present day.
 
I seem to recall the Bush admin had a dim view of reporters critical of them as well. Which really only prices that nothing changes when we keep voting for the same two gangs.

If Bush had targeted reporters to the extent Obama has there would be hollywood movie after movie about it, and every lib would bring it up like its cool.

But its crickets from the o-bots on this.
 
If Bush had targeted reporters to the extent Obama has there would be hollywood movie after movie about it, and every lib would bring it up like its cool.

But its crickets from the o-bots on this.

Please give specific examples other than the clearly pathetic attempt in this thread to prove Obama "targets" reporters. Making blanket accusations and generalizations is not proof of anything more than your whining.
 
Quick search on the Washington Post site produced 89 hits since 2005.

Exactly my point. The word was used exactly 85 times in all the stories produced by the Washington Post in 9 years. I would also hazard a quick guess and say probably 90-95 percent of those uses were by Krauthammer, which of course furthers my point even more.
 
Exactly my point. The word was used exactly 85 times in all the stories produced by the Washington Post in 9 years. I would also hazard a quick guess and say probably 90-95 percent of those uses were by Krauthammer, which of course furthers my point even more.

89 times. You lose.
 
Exactly my point. The word was used exactly 85 times in all the stories produced by the Washington Post in 9 years. I would also hazard a quick guess and say probably 90-95 percent of those uses were by Krauthammer, which of course furthers my point even more.

Not a single Krauthammer column among the 89. You lose again.
 
89 times. You lose.

I lose...what are you talking about...The most pompous newspaper in the U.S. uses the term you are discussing 9 times each year and suddenly it is a commonly used word in english? You are laughable. A person who chooses not to go to college and study either art or political science can go there whole life in this country without hearing or reading agitprop. Besides the fact that concentrating on debating that one ill used word in your argument does nothing to refute ridiculousness of the OP as pointed out in my first post in this thread.
 
Please give specific examples other than the clearly pathetic attempt in this thread to prove Obama "targets" reporters. Making blanket accusations and generalizations is not proof of anything more than your whining.

There are plenty out there. But lets not pretend I can lead you to water.
 
There are plenty out there. But lets not pretend I can lead you to water.

Lets not pretend you have any facts. Lets just go with generalizations and sweeping statements. Why present facts when we all know the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth etc. etc.
 
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