AP fact check on Obamas speech

Misterveritis said:

It would be Republican control of the Senate and many additional Republican seats in the House. You are not very good at this.

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Not enough to get a bill passed that cannot be overturned by a veto. That is why Obama has "gone rogue" now.

ttwtt78640 said:

Not enough to get a bill passed that cannot be overturned by a veto. That is why Obama has "gone rogue" now.

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That does not explain it. Megalomania might. Plus he is a committed, radical red diaper doper baby. Genuine Marxist (in my opinion).

Misterveritis said:

That does not explain it. Megalomania might. Plus he is a committed, radical red diaper doper baby. Genuine Marxist (in my opinion).

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This is the fundamental transformation of America that he promised us. You pay what you get for.

ttwtt78640 said:

This is the fundamental transformation of America that he promised us. You pay what you get for.

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More like the result of an evolution that has been going on for some time. Congress has abdicated its role in declaring war. It no longer passes a budget. It allowed Bush II to have signing statements where he said certain parts of a bill he did not like he would ignore.Allowed this president to not even follow his own ACA bill. And now this.

America seems to be devolving into an electoral dictatorship ( if that makes sense).

Just proves that Gruber is right, though we hate to admit it.

TheNextEra said:

It's broken in the amount of time it takes to become a LEGAL citizen. In that regards, yes, it is quite broken and needs reform. However, that can all be accomplished WITHOUT doing what Obama did last night.

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First of all, the big complaint isn't about becoming a citizen, it's about waiting in line to become an immigrant.

Once an immigrant is here, they can, in time, when they're ready, apply for citizenship.

But it's getting here that's the big complaint; getting here as an immigrant.

Still, the fact that people complain "it takes too long" doesn't mean the operative word "too" is universally correct or the valid focus.

The INS considers a lot of factors nowadays, including the current unemployment rate, overcrowding of cities, regional economic status, water availabilities, etc., etc.

If we cannot provide adequately for our own people, then it rightly is supposed to take a while before an "opening" for an immigrant occurs.

This simply makes common sense.

We're still suffering from the effects of the Great Recession, the actual unemployment rate is still around 13 percent or so if you rightly factor in the estimated homeless and over-50 and others who've disappeared off the radar.

A country naturally wants to get their act together before they bring in more people that will causing adding to the number who have to fall into a safety net or disappear off the radar.

Perhaps if everyone everywhere would stop looking here as if we owe them a faster response, and instead hold some gratitude that they're even being considered, and joyousness if they get selected.

This complaint about "it takes too long" to become an immigrant, it's seriously skewed, inconsiderate, entitled, and also to a degree victim-mentality in nature.

America is neither a wished-for Shangri-La or a promised Heaven.

We have our issues too which we want to handle intelligently, to the best of our ability .. and if that means we don't have room to add more resultant unemployment and resource drain, we have to just say "not now" to immigration applicants.

That's the right thing to do.

There's nothing broken about that.

Misterveritis said:

Of course if you like your tyrant you can keep your tyrant.

Why are you talking to me about courts? The Congress will make a grave mistake if they try to solve this tyranny with a lawsuit. This is only solvable by defunding the Left, impeaching the tyrant and eventually trying the tyrant for treason.

Bush is not the president. Obama is. This is the man who is holding the knife to our throats, hacking and sawing away at the US citizens necks.

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Wow. You really belive that don't you.

(It should be saved for posterity).

Misterveritis said:

I believe it will begin with assassinations of prominent Democrats and the Latino front groups. If the Republicans fail to address this appropriately I do not see how war can be avoided. I do not know how it will begin. But I will know it when I see it. You might not.

Whether it happens right away or not you are far worse off today then you were last night. You wages were suppressed. Your taxes will go up. Then nation's economic collapse date has been advanced. We, the American citizens, lost our border, and now we are poised to lose our language and our culture. This nation did not commit suicide but half of the nation voted for the one who cut our throat.

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Define that. In your opinion, what is it that Republicans need to do to "avoid war?" (Understand from my chair you have really stepped off the deep end with this hysteria.)

"Of course if you like your tyrant you can keep your tyrant.

Why are you talking to me about courts? The Congress will make a grave mistake if they try to solve this tyranny with a lawsuit. This is only solvable by defunding the Left, impeaching the tyrant and eventually trying the tyrant for treason.

Bush is not the president. Obama is. This is the man who is holding the knife to our throats, hacking and sawing away at the US citizens necks."

jet57 said:

Wow. You really belive that don't you.

(It should be saved for posterity).

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Why would you doubt me? The legislative branch has the responsibility to defend itself. They are failing to use the tools they have and are looking to the judicial branch to step in. If the judicial branch sides with the president then we have no further need for the legislature.

If the president is going to be lawless every day why should anyone follow the law any further?

OrphanSlug said:

Define that. In your opinion, what is it that Republicans need to do to "avoid war?" (Understand from my chair you have really stepped off the deep end with this hysteria.)

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Have I not already made this clear? Did you just arrive?

The House needs to impeach the Lawless one. The Senate needs to convict the Lawless One. The Father of Lies must be removed from office.

While they build the case the Congress needs to defund the Left by sending small appropriations bills, department-level bills removing all funding for every questionable (leftist) program. The members of Congress need to go on the offensive against this monster every day on television, on talk radio, on Opinion pages, on the Internet. The Congress needs to remove the wording in the statutes that allow the five hundred independent agencies to make their own laws and to act as the enforcers and judges.

If the Congress fails to act then the tyrant becomes a dictator and this Rome will fall.

Misterveritis said:

You pay attention to the noise. Nothing has changed that has anything to do with the Tyrant. A drop in the price of oil has had more impact than any of the weak efforts Obama has made.

But don't let me get in the way of your imaginings.

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Obama's sanctions may have had some effect on Russia's economy but it sure didn't prevent Vlad from sending more of his boys into Ukraine, starting to rebuild the Soviet Union, or getting cozy with Iran & Turkey while the hapless Kerry is preparing to make believe what he comes up with vis-à-vis Iran is a good deal for all of us.
Yeah ...uh-huh ... Russia is scared shizzless of Obama.

Misterveritis said:

Have I not already made this clear? Did you just arrive?

The House needs to impeach the Lawless one. The Senate needs to convict the Lawless One. The Father of Lies must be removed from office.

While they build the case the Congress needs to defund the Left by sending small appropriations bills, department-level bills removing all funding for every questionable (leftist) program. The members of Congress need to go on the offensive against this monster every day on television, on talk radio, on Opinion pages, on the Internet. The Congress needs to remove the wording in the statutes that allow the five hundred independent agencies to make their own laws and to act as the enforcers and judges.

If the Congress fails to act then the tyrant becomes a dictator and this Rome will fall.

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Of course, but I thought I would help your hysteria.

There is a remedy and it does not involve shotguns is my point. It is up to Republicans to respond and in my opinion they will make some mistakes along the way in not just immigration but also spending bills.

Most unfortunate as this can be handled, but derailed by those looking to overthrow the "tyrant."

bubbabgone said:

Obama's sanctions may have had some effect on Russia's economy but it sure didn't prevent Vlad from sending more of his boys into Ukraine, starting to rebuild the Soviet Union, or getting cozy with Iran & Turkey while the hapless Kerry is preparing to make believe what he comes up with vis-à-vis Iran is a good deal for all of us.
Yeah ...uh-huh ... Russia is scared shizzless of Obama.

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LOL. Russia has dealt with American sanctions before. They are always ineffective. But some want to give the sissy-abroad more due that he is owed. The same people support his tyranny against American citizens.

"The House needs to impeach the Lawless one. The Senate needs to convict the Lawless One. The Father of Lies must be removed from office.

While they build the case the Congress needs to defund the Left by sending small appropriations bills, department-level bills removing all funding for every questionable (leftist) program. The members of Congress need to go on the offensive against this monster every day on television, on talk radio, on Opinion pages, on the Internet. The Congress needs to remove the wording in the statutes that allow the five hundred independent agencies to make their own laws and to act as the enforcers and judges.

If the Congress fails to act then the tyrant becomes a dictator and this Rome will fall."

OrphanSlug said:

Of course, but I thought I would help your hysteria.

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For those who support tyrants the truth will look like hysteria.

There is a remedy and it does not involve shotguns is my point.

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Imagine that. We agree. Do you believe impeachment requires shotguns?

It is up to Republicans to respond and in my opinion they will make some mistakes along the way in not just immigration but also spending bills.

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It is up to the Congress to respond. The Congress has been damaged by the Lawless One. The way to do it is through the budget and through advice and consent. The Congress should withhold all appointment approvals until the EO is rescinded.

Most unfortunate as this can be handled, but derailed by those looking to overthrow the "tyrant."

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This sentence, as written, lacks something.

Ockham said:

That was one of his most genuine moments - he likes nothing better than to divide, polarize and pit one against the other. It's his nature.

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A community organizer? Say it aint so!