Glenn Beck, I salute you...[W:207]

I don't mean that sarcastically. Today, Glenn Beck... has given me hope. It takes a big man to say these words.

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As crazy as he is, I've always liked the guy. I think he's goes way over the top on some things, but at least he doesn't march lockstep with anyone.

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He kind of had to, or else he couldn't rant about Obama being wrong when we go back.

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Maybe this is the first step on a long road away from neoconservatism. Unlikely, but possible. Never thought I'd see 'liberals' and 'right' in the same sentence from such a partisan blockhead.

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Geneke said:

Maybe this is the first step on a long road away from neoconservatism. Unlikely, but possible. Never thought I'd see 'liberals' and 'right' in the same sentence from such a partisan blockhead.

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Perhaps you should see the entire interview. Glenn Beck: Liberals Were Right .... - Fox Nation

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rocket88 said:

He kind of had to, or else he couldn't rant about Obama being wrong when we go back.

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That was my first thought.

Some kind of preemption.

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Geneke said:

Maybe this is the first step on a long road away from neoconservatism. Unlikely, but possible. Never thought I'd see 'liberals' and 'right' in the same sentence from such a partisan blockhead.

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He has actually been pretty libertarian in several views for a few years now. I suspect it's one of the reasons he left Fox news.

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Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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lizzie said:

He has actually been pretty libertarian in several views for a few years now. I suspect it's one of the reasons he left Fox news.

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When Beck said that he'd been contributing to the divisions in the country, and felt bad about it, I thought it was a sign that deep down he's an alright guy... I could be wrong. I hope not.

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I will give him credit on this, took a lot to admit he was horribly wrong.

He is still nuttier than a port-a-potty after a weekend pecan festival though....

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beefheart said:

I will give him credit on this, took a lot to admit he was horribly wrong.

He is still nuttier than a port-a-potty after a weekend pecan festival though....

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Amadeus said:

When Beck said that he'd been contributing to the divisions in the country, and felt bad about it, I thought it was a sign that deep down he's an alright guy... I could be wrong. I hope not.

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I seriously believe he's a good guy. I think he got a little crazy a couple of years ago, with the religious stuff, and trying to bring everyone to a concensus. I know he has a history of drug abuse and/or alcoholism, which tells me he has some issues, but I have not seen evidence that he harbors any malice, and I really do think I've seen a transition from the conservative side, toward a more libertarian view in general.

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Captain America said:

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I loved the wheezy dog, I remember the Saturday mornings watching the wacky races cartoons...


The thing about Beck is, he was a music DJ in Phoenix, back when he was heavy into cocaine and alcohol and he really did some nasty things to people in the industry, then he cleaned up (good for him) became Mormon (whatever..his choice), and then set out to make money being a shock talk radio host. He knew how to do it and be successful, but, there were several times he was angry when people didn't care for the persona he created on the radio, and couldn't understand why he would get treated badly by some who weren't in on the "radio personality" joke. Problem is, radio is a powerful medium, and even if you are a complete performance artist actor who will do and say anything to get ratings, don't be surprised when people don't like that persona you created. Maybe, now that he has all the money, and he is under a bit of pressure because he has incited some pretty crazy things, he is stepping back a bit? I don't know. I do know that talk radio ratings, left and right have been going steadily downward in the last few years, and the industry is concerned.

I hope he stops the crazy schtick and the fake crying and screaming and the faux outrage, at some point, that act has to get old and boring to oneself.

I am a huge fan of Penn Jillette, and Penn and Glenn are good friends, he vouches for him, but he calls him out when he gets all bugnutty and makes bizarre chalkboard diagrams using 6 different colors of chalk...

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Glenn Beck, for all his quirkiness, what some see as extremism, his appearance of dabbling in conspiracy theories, and his outspokenness that has offended some, has never been one to be duplicitous or self serving in his commentary. So it is interesting that some accuse him of ulterior motives in his admission that he was wrong about Iraq. He didn't need to do that to criticize Obama. All he had to do to criticize Obama is to accuse him of pulling out of Iraq too early and now he has to go back.

I find it completely refreshing that somebody of Beck's stature is able and willing to go 100% public with an admission that he was totally wrong on a political stance. How much better off as a nation would we be if our elected leaders were as able to do that instead of using all manner of destructive means to defend the indefensible?

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Several months ago he came out with statements supporting Melissa Harris-Perry and her show with a picture of Romney's black adopted grandson. Now this.

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AlbqOwl said:

Glenn Beck, for all his quirkiness, what some see as extremism, his appearance of dabbling in conspiracy theories, and his outspokenness that has offended some, has never been one to be duplicitous or self serving in his commentary. So it is interesting that some accuse him of ulterior motives in his admission that he was wrong about Iraq. He didn't need to do that to criticize Obama. All he had to do to criticize Obama is to accuse him of pulling out of Iraq too early and now he has to go back.

I find it completely refreshing that somebody of Beck's stature is able and willing to go 100% public with an admission that he was totally wrong on a political stance. How much better off as a nation would we be if our elected leaders were as able to do that instead of using all manner of destructive means to defend the indefensible?

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I look forward to Beck's admission that his 4534583 Godwins were wrong as well.

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AlbqOwl said:

I find it completely refreshing that somebody of Beck's stature is able and willing to go 100% public with an admission that he was totally wrong on a political stance. How much better off as a nation would we be if our elected leaders were as able to do that instead of using all manner of destructive means to defend the indefensible?

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Could you ever imagine Hannity doing that? Think of the Star Trek episode where they caused all them fembots to explode by using weird logic and doing goofy, illogical things in front of them.

No, I can't ever imaging Hannity having the intellect or the honesty.

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ecofarm said:

I look forward to Beck's admission that his 4534583 Godwins were wrong as well.

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Beck may want to continue with apologizing for all the slime he through at Cindy Sheehan .

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NIMBY said:

Beck may want to continue with apologizing for all the slime he through at Cindy Sheehan .

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Sure, and maybe Beck does have a lot to apologize for before he earns credibility. I just hope that when my number is punched, I'll be judged for my best qualities, not my biggest mistakes. If Beck is being sincere, I'll take it.

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beefheart said:

I loved the wheezy dog, I remember the Saturday mornings watching the wacky races cartoons...


The thing about Beck is, he was a music DJ in Phoenix, back when he was heavy into cocaine and alcohol and he really did some nasty things to people in the industry, then he cleaned up (good for him) became Mormon (whatever..his choice), and then set out to make money being a shock talk radio host. He knew how to do it and be successful, but, there were several times he was angry when people didn't care for the persona he created on the radio, and couldn't understand why he would get treated badly by some who weren't in on the "radio personality" joke. Problem is, radio is a powerful medium, and even if you are a complete performance artist actor who will do and say anything to get ratings, don't be surprised when people don't like that persona you created. Maybe, now that he has all the money, and he is under a bit of pressure because he has incited some pretty crazy things, he is stepping back a bit? I don't know. I do know that talk radio ratings, left and right have been going steadily downward in the last few years, and the industry is concerned.

I hope he stops the crazy schtick and the fake crying and screaming and the faux outrage, at some point, that act has to get old and boring to oneself.

I am a huge fan of Penn Jillette, and Penn and Glenn are good friends, he vouches for him, but he calls him out when he gets all bugnutty and makes bizarre chalkboard diagrams using 6 different colors of chalk...

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Well, I have long thought that the political pundits on TV were, for the most part, just prostitutes who will say and do anything, and take any position whatsoever, as long as they were making their rating numbers and a fat paycheck. I mean, seriously, what critical thinking person could actually take Beck, Hannity, etc., seriously? They are so off the hook stupid that one has to assume it's just an act.

But the damage they have caused, enabling people to promote the vilest of ideologies, all the while giving these nutbags some sense of credibility because, "Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck," etc., "agrees" with them. I got news for those morons. These kinds of pundits will agree with anything that puts money in their bank. Off-duty, they may be the nicest people in the world but that does not nullify the damage they have done to our nation in their "divide and conquer," strategy.

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Amadeus said:

Sure, and maybe Beck does have a lot to apologize for before he earns credibility. I just hope that when my number is punched, I'll be judged for my best qualities, not my biggest mistakes. If Beck is being sincere, I'll take it.

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I give Beck full credit for inventing the TEA-party as we know it today in 2009 through his time on FOX.
Beck gets as much credit for the Gerry-Mandered House we're stuck with until at least 2022 when the next round of CD remaps kick in .

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Captain America said:

Well, I have long thought that the political pundits on TV were, for the most part, just prostitutes who will say and do anything, and take any position whatsoever, as long as they were making their rating numbers and a fat paycheck. I mean, seriously, what critical thinking person could actually take Beck, Hannity, etc., seriously? They are so off the hook stupid that one has to assume it's just an act.

But the damage they have caused, enabling people to promote the vilest of ideologies, all the while giving these nutbags some sense of credibility because, "Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck," etc., "agrees" with them. I got news for those morons. These kinds of pundits will agree with anything that puts money in their bank. Off-duty, they may be the nicest people in the world but that does not nullify the damage they have done to our nation in their "divide and conquer," strategy.

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Hannity got his start with a show on a university radio station (not that he actually went to college, a surprising number of political talk show hosts don't have degrees), he did a very crazy show, conspiracy theories, yelling and screaming, kind of an Alex Jones schtick. Somehow he got picked up to do a show at a normal station and adopted a kinder schtick. There is a bunch of stuff about his early days in the book "The Loudest Voice in the Room", worth reading.

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Captain America said:

Well, I have long thought that the political pundits on TV were, for the most part, just prostitutes who will say and do anything, and take any position whatsoever, as long as they were making their rating numbers and a fat paycheck. I mean, seriously, what critical thinking person could actually take Beck, Hannity, etc., seriously? They are so off the hook stupid that one has to assume it's just an act.

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As you mention Beck and others being prostitutes,
it was Beck who accused Cindy Sheehan of prostituting her son's death in Iraq.

Only Beck's Maker gets to forgive him for that sin .

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NIMBY said:

As you mention Beck and others being prostitutes,
it was Beck who accused Cindy Sheehan of prostituting her son's death in Iraq.

Only Beck's Maker gets to forgive him for that sin .

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Hey, it's what his war-dog audience wanted to hear. So that's what he told them. When in Rome.....

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From today -

16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal:

Quote U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said.

Nonetheless, the capture of the chemical-weapon stockpile by the forces of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, known as ISIS or ISIL, the militant group that is seizing territory in the country, has grabbed the attention of the U.S.

"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement. "We do not believe that the complex contains CW materials of military value and it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials."

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Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile' - live - Telegraph