Navy Pride said:
The fact of the matter is CNN play a propaganda film for the terrorists and if you liberals weren't so bias you would admit it.........
What the F**k is a "liberal" here? Basically your saying that anybody who doesn't worship the president or his policies. is a "liberal."
Are independants also biased, because they don't support the war? You are so closed-minded that your brain tells you if anybody disagrees with the war they are "liberals" (defined as anyone who doesn't agree with Bush) or "biased" (defined as anyone who doesn't have your exact same opinion/politicla views).
Anyways, CNN showed a video of things that are occuring in Iraq. Apparently you don't think the people have a right to know what is really going on in Iraq, and instead would like us to hear cheery stories of people celebrating in the streets and having a merry old time laughing and playing in the sun.
Thats bullshit. Even though that is what most of the news is these days, we don't want too much bullshit. Once in a while we like to learn some truth and facts.
1).Politics is a part of war that can not be seperated from the killing and conquering side of it and propaganda is a toll used. The sniper video clip IS from the enemy's propaganda debt. and CNN done them a HUGE favor in airing it. 2). Taking a stand is not changing the channel- that's ignoring a wrong. People should pressure their elected rep. to control events and info. in wartime like they used to. If this was WWII CNN would be brought up on charges.
1) Spoken like a true fascist.
Joseph Goebbels would have been proud.
2. You are opposed to the basic principle of freedom of the press. Thats about as anti-American as one can possibly get. My suggestion to you is to move to a country where freedom of the press is illegal (something you desire). Perhaps North Korea or China. They have excellent state-run newspapers and propaganda ministries. They would probably fit right in with your view on how governments should treat their citizens freedoms.
One thing is for sure, when they have enemies, they are never broadcasted in a good light. Maybe thats why their governments are so "strong?" Instead of living in a weak and decadent "liberal" utopia here in America, why not move to an authoritarian and "strong" government nation like China?
Of course your other option is to hope for the best that maybe America will someday get a totalitarian regime who controls the dissemination of all information. With the number of people who think like you, that future is not far away at all.
so wanting both sides of the issue to be given equal time is propaganda? hardly.
Thats like saying both evolution and creation should be given equal time in the classroom. The very idea is ridiculous.
The media should report truth and facts -- thats it. They shouldn't report based on what people
want to hear or what will help the current administration politically. What would be the point of the news if they only reported what we wanted to hear? We have movies for that. If they want to portray Iraq as some blissful utopia they can do that in Hollywood. When in Iraq, they should report what is going on.
again, I simply want the news to be reported fairly. consistently. without the Dan Rathers of the world putting forth a personal agenda.
what exactly is my world view?
From what I've read, basically anybody who doesn't support this war is either "liberal" or "biased." Of course, I'd be more than happy for you to clarify and actually take a position (something the Democrats can't ever do). Or will you just flip-flop and try to be as vague as possible like Bush?
I simply want both sides of the issue reported. why dont we see things like
http://www.glennbeck.com/realstory/iraq-video.shtml
on the primetime evening news? why doesnt Chris Mathews report that? Dan Rather? why is something factual considered by you to be bullshit? its clear here who supports propaganda I think.
Thats already been reported on a hundred times over. We call that
old news. Nobody wants to keep hearing the same **** over and over and over and over one million times. We've already heard about the "progress" being made in Iraq, most of it due to propaganda by none-other than our own government.
What we didn't hear about (or even know about) was the Baghdad sniper. That is news, a lot of people didn't know that was going on and the video brought that cold, hard truth that the American people need to know.
We all know that schools are being built in Iraq. We all know that we are rebulding the infrastructure (sanitation, electricity, phones) that we blew up in the first place. We all know that schools are being built. Thats not
news to anybody.
Use some common sense man. It's ironic that you talk about other peoples bias when in reality it's your own bias which makes you unable to see the hypocrasy of your argument.
untrue. click on the video link I posted. the bad does not outweigh the good. thats the propaganda talking for you. thats why equal time should be given in reporting. you are PROVING MY POINT FOR ME. thanks.
I've already watched the video the first time and again to make this reply. The good still doesn't outweigh the bad.
Good -- Democratic elections, ousted murdering dictator, rebuliding infrastructure (that we destroyed/blew up in the first place), .......anything else?
Bad -- thousands of dead, 50 people dieing
every day, violence across the nation, no sense of security or well-being, conflict conflict conflict conflict, nation might be split up into 3 countries, militias refusing to disarm and now gaining political clout in legislature, sunnis still pissed off at our presense, soldiers dieing, lost our influence and respect/leadership on the world scene, BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars that the American taxpayers are burdened with for this war.
prime example of primetime news reporting. why dont you mention any of the things in the link I posted?
ahhh, yes.....because YOU HAVENT HEARD THOSE THINGS due to left wing propaganda.
lol......too easy.
Because they are not quite as relevant to the reality of the situation in Iraq.
Tell me why don't consevative reporters venture out into the streets on their own? I remember Ingraham saying something about the "liberal media" reporting from balconies about the latest IED explosion. And wtf was she doing? Going around in helicopters and military convoys with soldiers and highly protect government officials.
Was she out there on the streets experiencing (and reporting) the real situation? I don't think so. What your describing is closer to propaganda than what you oppose (truth). The truth is that Iraq is a very f***king dangerous place. Very dangerous. I don't think that fact needs to be hidden or shun or downplayed even if you support the war!
If that were true, CNN would be showing the video Uday Hussein took the day he covered his girlfriend in honey and threw her into a kennel of rottweilers. It was a real eye opener. Seeing the dad's reaction when the dogs tore her throat open was hilarious!
Only Uday is dead, so that wouldn't be
news. And this is apples to oranges, since (I hope) your not even saying that the media tried to portray Uday as a good person, or even downplayed his atrocities (give one example, I will accept this as proof).
The one of the woman in a soccer stadium begging for her life before she gets shot in the face for cheating on her husband? CLASSIC!
That didn't happen in Iraq, and secondly, that also isn't news because that occured under the Taliban,
If you want a little injection of truth (not sure how much you can handle right now), Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist party gave more rights to woman than they enjoy in any other country in the Middle East save Israel. But you probably don't know that much about Ba'athist ideology (pan-Arabism, things like that). You probably wouldn't know how Saddam ran on an anti-fundamentalist/Islamist platform for most of his presidency.
I mean since your so concerned about always hearing BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY! Let's talk about the good things Saddam did for Iraq, shall we? Yes, it's ridiculous, hopefully this introversion will help you see the fallacies in your own argument.
Or how about the one where Iraqi soldiers took a home video in Kuwait of them dragging a man out of his home in front of his wife and six year old daughter and feeding him into a woodchopper.
Probably be about the same as home videos which show the US army torturing Iraqi civilians (raping and killing, in some cases).
Only these are actually occuring, i.e. they are
news. I think the term you are looking for is called
history.
