Thread: When a candidate's wealth is an issue

John Kerry married into much of his wealth so in effect its not at his disposal.
The MRC counts the stupidest things, IMO.


As for the media wanting to elect President Obama, that simply doesn't seem to be the case.


Barack Obama | Project for Excellence in Journalism

vs.

Mitt Romney | Project for Excellence in Journalism

Originally Posted by pbrauer

As for the media wanting to elect President Obama, that simply doesn't seem to be the case.

Have you noticed how the US right uses the "its the liberal media's fault" card each time they loose faith in being victorious in something political?

Originally Posted by Grim17

It seems the main stream news media doesn't see it that way... Well they did with John Kerry, because he was a democrat... Not so much with Romney though, because Republicans are all evil you know.

Kerry wasn't rich. His wife was.

I don't think in modern American politics there is going to be a candidate whose bank account defines him or her as middle class. I don't care how wealthy a Kerry or a Romney is; they just have more of what all the candidates have--money. Every day now I'm throwing away by the dozens horrendously expensive campaign materials that arrive as junk mail. The obscenity of this waste of money makes me sick. I've been a campaign manager and know how expensive those materials are. The fact, which is what needs to change but won't, is that to win a position even on a city council or as a state rep or senator, a ridiculous amount of money has to be spent.

That's what I wish would change. It won't, but when you retrieve your mail tomorrow, remember that everybody running for everything probably has more money than you do and is squandering it in the pursuit of power.

Originally Posted by nota bene

I don't think in modern American politics there is going to be a candidate whose bank account defines him or her as middle class. I don't care how wealthy a Kerry or a Romney is; they just have more of what all the candidates have--money. Every day now I'm throwing away by the dozens horrendously expensive campaign materials that arrive as junk mail. The obscenity of this waste of money makes me sick. I've been a campaign manager and know how expensive those materials are. The fact, which is what needs to change but won't, is that to win a position even on a city council or as a state rep or senator, a ridiculous amount of money has to be spent.




That's what I wish would change. It won't, but when you retrieve your mail tomorrow, remember that everybody running for everything probably has more money than you do and is squandering it in the pursuit of power.

I agree there never will be a middle class candidate for president in my lifetime....what does define them is if they are for the middleclass and poor and of the rich for the rich.

Originally Posted by lpast

I agree there never will be a middle class candidate for president in my lifetime....what does define them is if they are for the middleclass and poor and of the rich for the rich.

Your categories are way oversimplistic. And why do you group the "middle class"--not sure how you define this term--with "the poor"?

Originally Posted by Grim17

This clip speaks for itself:

O'Reilly: Another sign media wants Obama re-elected | MRCTV

What O'Reilly neglects to mention is that it is Romney that proposes cutting tax rates for the most wealthy even more at the expense of our most vulnerable citizens. Kerry did not. That's what makes the wealth of the King of the 1% so newsworthy.

Originally Posted by Catawba

What O'Reilly neglects to mention is that it is Romney that proposes cutting tax rates for the most wealthy even more at the expense of our most vulnerable citizens. Kerry did not. That's what makes the wealth of the King of the 1% so newsworthy.

Would people call this partial truth a white lie or just something more outright. If I remember correctly Romney while calling for tax cuts across all brackets also said that he would eliminate deductions to offset them. Being in an election against someone who will offer no specifics, he seems rightly hesitant to list which deductions he would hit.

Now while I would not cut all brackets, I think it is important to at least have a bit of honesty in these "debates" lest they turn into nothing more than trite name calling.

What I think people do not get is that Romney at least to me is a pragmatist. I do not think that is a bad thing to compromise with the other side and come up with a good solution.

Originally Posted by washunut

Would people call this partial truth a white lie or just something more outright. If I remember correctly Romney while calling for tax cuts across all brackets also said that he would eliminate deductions to offset them. Being in an election against someone who will offer no specifics, he seems rightly hesitant to list which deductions he would hit.

Analysis: Romney tax plan strongly favors the rich

Yes, he has mentioned eliminating mortgage deductions, which will hit the middle class the hardest.

Now while I would not cut all brackets, I think it is important to at least have a bit of honesty in these "debates" lest they turn into nothing more than trite name calling.

What I think people do not get is that Romney at least to me is a pragmatist. I do not think that is a bad thing to compromise with the other side and come up with a good solution.

Refusing to end the tax cuts for the wealthy, and instead increasing the hardship on the most vulnerable citizens, is not compromise. The only time in the last 30 years when we reduced the deficit significantly was when both sides compromised to increase tax rates and decrease spending. Until we see that kind of compromise we will continue to have a deficit.

Originally Posted by nota bene

Your categories are way oversimplistic. And why do you group the "middle class"--not sure how you define this term--with "the poor"?

Oversimplistic ? how, ...can you name a middleclass or poor president in modern history ? and its the gop that has made the classificatin of the middleclass and poor and have separated the very rich from the rest of us.