Thread: The Lorax

Originally Posted by mpg

A guy invents a product. Producing the product requires trees. The product becomes very popular. Demand is so high that he has to cut down every single tree, destroying paradise and destroying his business in the process. He's the good capitalist. The powerful villain who controls everything, produces and sells bottled air. He doesn't want the trees replenished because that would destroy his business. He uses his power and evilness to try to prevent that from happening. Heroic teenagers, with the help of a grandmother, defeat the villain by replenishing the trees.

This is not a subplot. That's what the movie is all about.

The irony of your post is that this movie is being used to push countless products from food to SUVs.

Those anti-capitalist bastards!!!!!

Originally Posted by smb

From Atlas Shrugged to State of Fear through Zechariah in the Bible,
Literature is full of examples of how nature is pliable,
The theory that nature is there for humans to use,
Could not be more effuse,
Have no fear that Seuss can attempt to abate,
That we can use nature at such a rate,
For few things big or tall can cause humans to admit,
That as a part of nature we must submit,
And no longer use our environment like a tool,
Which is why we are such a fool.

Intriguing so many are mindless 'enviro' ****s,
Considering the time they spend at the Starbucks.
A forest is something most foreign to many
Camping and hiking, they do hardly any.
And the notion that tree herders chop with great haste
and destroy without care, laying great woods to waste
is belied by the fact, that they clear and replant
A capitalist knows how silly the Lorax's rant
But lo, should the 'many' find conscience and true good
let them set down their laptops, and go live in the woods.
There they can clothe themselves in moss and dry leaves
they can eat themselves berries, get the runs and dry heaves
Let them live in the wild on yon side of the hill...
oh how we'll miss them...we'll miss them...we will!

Originally Posted by VanceMack

Intriguing so many are mindless 'enviro' ****s,
Considering the time they spend at the Starbucks.
A forest is something most foreign to many
Camping and hiking, they do hardly any.
And the notion that tree herders chop with great haste
and destroy without care, laying great woods to waste
is belied by the fact, that they clear and replant
A capitalist knows how silly the Lorax's rant
But lo, should the 'many' find conscience and true good
let them set down their laptops, and go live in the woods.
There they can clothe themselves in moss and dry leaves
they can eat themselves berries, get the runs and dry heaves
Let them live in the wild on yon side of the hill...
oh how we'll miss them...we'll miss them...we will!

The attacks from the right appear to me to be quite humorous,
Rather than the issue they attack the messenger most vigorous,
While zealots on the environment exist to some degree,
No one should ever celebrate their demise with glee,
While some would advocate little or no use of environment at all,
These are a very slim minority in the call,
Most would say fair use should be the rule of the day,
So that we can continue to play,
But alas this is not the way of those with power have acted,
To them nature is but a resource to be extracted.

Originally Posted by mpg

or it could simply not try to influence the political beliefs of children

Poor children. It is terrible for them to learn greed is bad. Or that profit concerns can be trumped by other issues. I do wish there was a real issue here.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Poor children. It is terrible for them to learn greed is bad. Or that profit concerns can be trumped by other issues. I do wish there was a real issue here.

it is terrible actually.

greed is not bad. greed is why mankind sees huge jumps in technological advances. it is why products can get cheaper while lasting longer and working better.

Originally Posted by ARealConservative

it is terrible actually.

greed is not bad. greed is why mankind sees huge jumps in technological advances. it is why products can get cheaper while lasting longer and working better.

Greed is good... economic collapse did not happen in 2008, stay the course.

Originally Posted by ARealConservative

it is terrible actually.

greed is not bad. greed is why mankind sees huge jumps in technological advances. it is why products can get cheaper while lasting longer and working better.

Like I said, I heard in a movie that greed was good.

No, you mistake the drive to do well with greed. they are actually two different things. Greed, where you need it so badly you're willing to harm others, is bad. Period. Not even conservatives, real conservatives, promote greed.

I'm sorry that you, and MPG it appears, don't understand the difference between the two.

Originally Posted by mpg

Teaching and indoctrinating are two different things.

And if you claim they are indoctrinating, you have to show they are.

But isn't what you're really upset about is that there is not enough indoctrination to your world view? Wouldn't you really favor indoctrination if it was the way you want it done?

Originally Posted by smb

The attacks from the right appear to me to be quite humorous,
Rather than the issue they attack the messenger most vigorous,
While zealots on the environment exist to some degree,
No one should ever celebrate their demise with glee,
While some would advocate little or no use of environment at all,
These are a very slim minority in the call,
Most would say fair use should be the rule of the day,
So that we can continue to play,
But alas this is not the way of those with power have acted,
To them nature is but a resource to be extracted.

Unlike the faux enviro types
many conservatives do more than bleat hype.
To us the wilderness is lush and greenery
and not merely the backdrop to your video game scenery
When it comes to experiencing nature's enjoyment
We do it in person, not from our moms basement.
As to the 'capitalists' cutting down trees
surely you know they replant them you see?
And tho you bemoan where business ventures have trod
surely you realize it takes natural resources to make your iPod?
Responsible management of nature is a must
for those of us who dont spend our lives swilling red bull and covered in cheeto dust.

Originally Posted by VanceMack

Unlike the faux enviro types
many conservatives do more than bleat hype.
To us the wilderness is lush and greenery
and not merely the backdrop to your video game scenery
When it comes to experiencing nature's enjoyment
We do it in person, not from our moms basement.
As to the 'capitalists' cutting down trees
surely you know they replant them you see?
And tho you bemoan where business ventures have trod
surely you realize it takes natural resources to make your iPod?
Responsible management of nature is a must
for those of us who dont spend our lives swilling red bull and covered in cheeto dust.

Yes, many conservatives are not much different than liberal environmentalist. Wanting to conserve is not a liberal issue alone.

There is a line where business goes too far, and both conservatives and liberals should agree that there is a line, and work toward agreement on where that line is.