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The Glenn Beck Boycott Gaining Traction - FOX News Losing Money

Conservative said:
You want me to post it daily? The numbers are the same almost every day. You just cannot admit that you don't know what you are talking about.
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Sure post 'em every day let's see if Beck can gain back his 30% and then make gains on both Olberman and Mathews.
 
winston53660 said:
Sure post 'em every day let's see if Beck can gain back his 30% and then make gains on both Olberman and Mathews.
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Apparently you missed the daily postings or did you simply ignore those postings because they showed that viewership for all the shows at 5 P.M. dropped during the week and Beck still has a 4-1 advantage over competition?

Not surprising that you ignored that reality and like most liberals you don't like being proven wrong or even challenged.
 
winston53660 said:
"Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth?" Beck asked. "Do you know? We're the only country in the world that has it. Why?"

PolitiFact | Glenn Beck, on anchor babies, claims U.S. is only country with automatic citizenship upon birth

Nations Granting Birthright Citizenship



The United States is just one of many nations that offers the unconditional citizenship of children born within its borders. The following is a list of nation's that also grant Birthright Citizenship:

* Antigua and Barbuda
* Argentina
* Azerbaijan
* Barbados
* Belize
* Bolivia
* Brazil
* Canada
* Colombia
* Dominica
* Dominican Republic
* Ecuador
* El Salvador
* Fiji
* Grenada
* Guatemala
* Guyana
* Honduras
* Jamaica
* Lesotho
* Mexico
* Nicaragua
* Pakistan
* Panama
* Paraguay
* Peru
* Saint Christopher and Nevis
* Saint Lucia
* Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
* Trinidad and Tobago
* Uruguay
* Venezuela

Nations Granting Birthright Citizenship | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels
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Interesting selection for the "best lie" example. Sure appears he was wrong. No idea if he consciously lied about anything or if he just muddled his message. When i look at the list it does appear that we are the only modern Western country that endures the "anchor baby" exposure/issue. Funny that, eh?

Do I suspect that was the message he was attempting to convey? Probably. Did he state it incorrectly? Looks like it. Is he a big doofus liar? In the eyes of the left that will be forever the case.....;)


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Conservative said:
Apparently you missed the daily postings or did you simply ignore those postings because they showed that viewership for all the shows at 5 P.M. dropped during the week and Beck still has a 4-1 advantage over competition?

Not surprising that you ignored that reality and like most liberals you don't like being proven wrong or even challenged.
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You posted one day from a a self admitted blog akin to Huffington Post.:rofl
 
Cole said:
Interesting selection for the "best lie" example.


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Best lie example? That is not what the other poster asked for and it took about 2 seconds to google the anchor baby story. There were plenty more.
 
winston53660 said:
Best lie example? That is not what the other poster asked for and it took about 2 seconds to google the anchor baby story. There were plenty more.
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Thought that first example was a little lame. Too easy to explain. Do you have a couple of more that are a bit more concrete? You may be right about him. Never watched him much, but this cold "liar" label just seems somewhat harsh...




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winston53660 said:
You posted one day from a a self admitted blog akin to Huffington Post.:rofl
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Like all liberals you ignore anything that refutes your opinions. The information I posted was from daily tracking information and not a biased source. Of course you have no problem with Media Matters, MoveOn, and other leftwing sites because they support your point of view. Ratings I provided do not come from a blog. If you have other numbers then post them but post the entire numbers, not simply percentage change which is irrelevant. Glenn Beck viewership dropping 30% from 2.9 million to 2.2 million is nothing since the 2.2 million is still four times the viewership of a competitor.

I gave you a week's worth of numbers that didn't vary much at all. nice spin though. Glad to see Beck irritating the hell out of you. Based upon that alone he deserves a contract extension.
 
Conservative said:
Of course you have no problem with Media Matters, MoveOn, and other leftwing sites because they support your point of view.
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I never posted anything from those sites. Would you like to try again tool?
 
Cole said:
Thought that first example was a little lame. Too easy to explain. Do you have a couple of more that are a bit more concrete? You may be right about him. Never watched him much, but this cold "liar" label just seems somewhat harsh...
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The anchor baby issue was more than concrete. And I quoted beck on it.
 
winston53660 said:
The anchor baby issue was more than concrete. And I quoted beck on it.
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OK. Your call. (a little disappointing)

On this example I think I'm going to go with 'Beck had his people check all the modern "westernish" countries (Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, etc) and found that none of them support the anchor baby principle, which is correct. And then he mis-spoke when they didn't check into Tobaga, Guyana, Belize. (Canada actually was a pretty big miss on Beck's part)'

If this is a "good" representation of why the left is so up in arms about Beck, don't think I'm quite ready to sharpen my pitchfork and join the cause.



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Cole said:
OK. Your call. (a little disappointing)

On this example I think I'm going to go with 'Beck had his people check all the modern "westernish" countries (Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, etc) and found that none of them support the anchor baby principle, which is correct. And then he mis-spoke when they didn't check into Tobaga, Guyana, Belize. (Canada actually was a pretty big miss on Beck's part)'

If this is a "good" representation of why the left is so up in arms about Beck, don't think I'm quite ready to sharpen my pitchfork and join the cause.



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I'm thinking about the painting American Gothic now, LOL. In the mean time I have a bitchy 7 yr old to deal with now.
 
winston53660 said:
I never posted anything from those sites. Would you like to try again tool?
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Care to respond to the 4-1 viewer advantage Beck has over competition? The numbers presented came from Nielson.

By the way, you do realize that most of the YouTube information that you post here came from the leftwing websites. Guess that fact escaped you.

Cole nailed it regarding you.
 
Conservative said:
Care to respond to the 4-1 viewer advantage Beck has over competition? The numbers presented came from Nielson.

By the way, you do realize that most of the YouTube information that you post here came from the leftwing websites. Guess that fact escaped you.

Cole nailed it regarding you.
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I did not post from youtube. Try again grasshopper.
 
Conservative said:
That is liberal arrogance and it is that arrogance that I don't understand how people can take seriously. he is being watched because he makes more sense than any liberal and the results support what he says. You want so badly to believe what you are being told yet the ideology that you are supporting fails over and over again. That is the definition of insanity.

Boo, people just don't buy your rhetoric any more because the facts simply trump that rhetoric. Facts always get in the way of liberal rhetoric for it is always results trumping rhetoric. You and others appeal to the hearts instead of appealing to the minds. Never trust what a liberal says but always see what a liberal does. Hard to overcome an ideology and cult followings but the truth will always set you free.
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No, for what he says to make sense, you have to be drinking the koolaid. Sorry.
 
yeah. like, just today he dedicated a whole show to talking about black leaders and thinkers in the American Revolution and mid 19th century. i mean everyone knows that blacks were only victims instead of individuals at that point in time, and that the Founders were a bunch of racists who thought blacks were 3/5ths of a person! :roll: what a wacko beck is, eh?

boo, i'm sorry, but to try to dismiss the man, you have to at least know that of which you speak. simply repeating the groupthink assumptions isn't going to cut it here as well as it does in the Lit Department.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, for what he says to make sense, you have to be drinking the koolaid. Sorry.
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not all of it just some of it. to agree with it all yes you are guzzling the kooliaid thats for sure, he tells some truths though. The majority is nothing more than opinion and you either agree with it, you dont or most importantly whether you do or dont you understand that either way it is still ONLY opinion. He is only meant for entertainment, like i said his show is about 50% opinion, 20%lie and 30% truth (those last two swap and move around some).

I think its funny because the doom and gloom propaganda to me is very obvious, he is good at what he does and i find it entertaining
 
O_Guru said:
not all of it just some of it. to agree with it all yes you are guzzling the kooliaid thats for sure, he tells some truths though. The majority is nothing more than opinion and you either agree with it, you dont or most importantly whether you do or dont you understand that either way it is still ONLY opinion. He is only meant for entertainment, like i said his show is about 50% opinion, 20%lie and 30% truth (those last two swap and move around some).

I think its funny because the doom and gloom propaganda to me is very obvious, he is good at what he does and i find it entertaining
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Listened to Beck on the radio fairly regularly a number of years back. Now catch him occasionally but rarely. Usually on the tube. Getting caught up in hyperbole and sensationalism is certainly not unfamiliar to his style. But just don't remember or think of him in the "liar" category. Sometimes he leaves me rolling my eyes. Sometimes he provides stimulating thoughts. Either way, it's just his opinion and most TVs/Radios have an off button for those who don't want to listen to him....;)


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Cole said:
Listened to Beck on the radio fairly regularly a number of years back. Now catch him occasionally but rarely. Usually on the tube. Getting caught up in hyperbole and sensationalism is certainly not unfamiliar to his style. But just don't remember or think of him in the "liar" category. Sometimes he leaves me rolling my eyes. Sometimes he provides stimulating thoughts. Either way, it's just his opinion and most TVs/Radios have an off button for those who don't want to listen to him....;)


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well it been proved in this thread he is infact a liar but thats no biggie has many commentator, entertainers lie and distort truth. His lies are only around 30% and less most times.

also I do agree 100% it is JUST his opinion thats where people seem to have the problem. There was a liar and nutjob posting here earlier in the thread that attacked me for saying glenn is about 50% opinion, 30% truth and 20% lies. He flew off the handle then he was exposed and it was proved beck lies and he just chose to attack and deny it. Now im not Einstein but jeez is saying beck is 50% opinioin, 30% truth and 20% lies such a bad thing? Seems pretty objective to me?

anyway I also agree those that dont like can change the channel or turn him off, I for one listen and DVR him daily im just smart enough to understand that his words arent "gospel"and he is meant for entertainment and he is VERY good at his job
 
lizzie said:
Considering the success of Beck's show (rivaling O'Reilly and Hannity and hugely more successful than shows on other cable news networks), I must say I have some doubts about just how this is being presented by "stopbecknow" (or whatever the link was).

The Foundation for a Better Life ads are broadcast an average of 2 million times daily, so it's hardly an indicator that Fox can't get advertisers in the time slots. Even if they are, I don't yet foresee Fox dropping Beck when he pulls in such a huge audience.

It's an interesting question though.:)
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I am highly skeptical about all of the information in this guys post. Like this guy has access to a chart revealing Fox News' Ad revenues for the Glen Beck slot? Or that a bunch of rogue website enthusiasts are going to convince advertisers to pull their ads? The companies that advertise on this channel and this time slot are not "Bob's Plumbing" They are McDonalds, Walmart, Chuck Schwab, etc. etc.. Its not exactly like they blindly chose this advertising spot and this guy pointed out that Glen is an extremest and then they pulled out, They know full well where their ads are and they love it.
 
I'm actually watching the show. it's a late-night rerun, and it's still downright annoying how many commercials and commercial breaks are jammed into it.

as for lying? no, I'm pretty sure Beck believes what he says. I disagree with some of his stuff (i think he tends to see deliberate cirected connections where occams' razor would suggest simply like-minded groups and people working together), but the fact remains that Beck has been way out in front on several big issues over the last couple of years.
 
cpwill said:
as for lying? no, I'm pretty sure Beck believes what he says. I disagree with some of his stuff (i think he tends to see deliberate cirected connections where occams' razor would suggest simply like-minded groups and people working together), but the fact remains that Beck has been way out in front on several big issues over the last couple of years.
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like i said maybe he didnt tonight has i didnt watch yet but it is a fact he lies, therea no debating that, we could debate "how much" but not "if"
He is also very good at selling his opinions has truths but again just like the lies they dont bother me because I "get it"
 
cpwill said:
I'm actually watching the show. it's a late-night rerun, and it's still downright annoying how many commercials and commercial breaks are jammed into it.

as for lying? no, I'm pretty sure Beck believes what he says. I disagree with some of his stuff (i think he tends to see deliberate cirected connections where occams' razor would suggest simply like-minded groups and people working together), but the fact remains that Beck has been way out in front on several big issues over the last couple of years.
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I doubt after watching him change his tune on health care. I suspect he plays to an audience and really doesn't let anything liek a core belief hinder him. He seems extremely disingenuous.
 
I have more respect for a crack whore than I do for Beck. Why anybody would defend this race baiting TV troll is beyond the realm of reality.
 
Is there any updated info on this?

Everything I've found is still dated back to January and February - nothing more recent. What, everyone cared so much that they forgot what they were suppose to be boycotting?
 
I will never buy a product from any company that boycotts a legitimate commentary just because they disagree with them.

Bias at its worst
 
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