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Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

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FOX News does it again! They dumbed down the public during the lead up and through the Iraq war, now they're dumbing down the rest of their viewers about health care reform. I would think Fox viewers would get embarrassed about being the dumbest Americans and quit watching them. I guess that's part of their dumbness though.

NBC Poll: Myths Endure on Health Care, Highlighting Doubts on Overhaul - Washington Wire - WSJ

First thoughts: Obama's good, bad news - First Read - msnbc.com

Here’s another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly. But it would be incorrect to suggest that this is ONLY coming from conservative viewers who tune in to FOX. In fact, 41% of CNN/MSNBC viewers believe the misinformation about illegal immigrants, 39% believe the government takeover stuff, 40% believe the abortion misperception, and 30% believe the stuff about pulling the plug on grandma. What’s more, a good chunk of folks who get their news from broadcast TV (NBC, ABC, CBS) believe these things, too.

The health insurance companies have a lot to be proud of. They've managed to mislead a lot of Americans with their Rent-A-Republicans.
 
The same was true a few years ago with the war in Iraq. Fox News viewers were statistically for more likely to believe that Iraq was involved in 9/11 and that WMD were found after the war began than any other demographic.

Polls like this usually find that NPR listeners and Daily Show watchers are statistically the best informed demographic while talk radio listeners and Fox News watchers are the most likely to be misinformed as to current events.
 
You forgot to post these poll results:

41% of CNN/MSNBC viewers believe the misinformation about illegal immigrants
39% believe the government takeover stuff
40% believe the abortion misperception
30% believe the stuff about pulling the plug on grandma

I'm sure it was just an oversight.
 
OK.

And as of 2007, 61% of Democrats either believed Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time (35%) or aren't sure (26%).

Who were they watching?

(EDIT: THE POINT, in case you don't follow: you can find a poll to stroke your ego no matter what the topic.)
 
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OK.

And as of 2007, 61% of Democrats either believed Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time (35%) or aren't sure (26%).

Who were they watching?

(EDIT: THE POINT, in case you don't follow: you can find a poll to stroke your ego no matter what the topic.)

He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.
 
He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.

The question specifically asked about 9/11.
 
FOX News does it again! They dumbed down the public during the lead up and through the Iraq war, now they're dumbing down the rest of their viewers about health care reform. I would think Fox viewers would get embarrassed about being the dumbest Americans and quit watching them. I guess that's part of their dumbness though.

Wait...you claim Fox is responsible for media bias and cite MSNBC as your source? :doh

*insert Vader voice* The Irony is strong with this one.



Also, thanks for the sweeping generalization, I wasn't aware I was one of the dumbest Americans. (Just because I watch a program on Fox from time to time does NOT mean I don't temper it with information from other sources. :2wave:
 
According to whom are these beliefs "myths"? Because as far as I am aware, the only one of those statements that is not true about the healthcare bill is that it will authorize the government to suspend medical treatment for the elderly-- and we'll see how well that goes, between the proposed cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and the projected budget shortfalls.

Noone may be talking about a government takeover of the healthcare system, but if there is a taxpayer subsidized public option and the private insurance industry still has to deal with the unfunded mandates of the government, the private insurers will be slowly but surely driven out of business. Now, I happen to think believe this is a good thing... but there is still good reason to believe that it is exactly what will happen.
 
What angers me (both sides do it) is the screaming of misinformation and not informing with proof one way or the other.

Example of this is abortion. While (correct me if im wrong) the bill does not mention abortion being covered it also has nothing saying abortions are exempt from coverage. So while one side can scream one thing and the other something else how is anyone right/wrong?
 
Well . . .

It is pretty hard to believe that even if it's not in the legislation currently, it won't be extended to illegal immigrants in very swift order. The argument for it writes itself.
 
What angers me (both sides do it) is the screaming of misinformation and not informing with proof one way or the other.

Example of this is abortion. While (correct me if im wrong) the bill does not mention abortion being covered it also has nothing saying abortions are exempt from coverage. So while one side can scream one thing and the other something else how is anyone right/wrong?

You cannot use government money to fund abortions.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_amendment]Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

You can go to the exact amendment and some links at the bottom of the article if Wiki bothers you.

By the way, I am a pro-life dem. I don't believe in abortion. So, I'm not trying to cast some liberal blanket over your eyes. I just don't see how the bill will be able to get around the Hyde Amendment.
 
Well . . .

It is pretty hard to believe that even if it's not in the legislation currently, it won't be extended to illegal immigrants in very swift order. The argument for it writes itself.

It's not going to happen. An illegal immigrant bill would have to be discussed outside of this current bill for a number of reasons. How that is solved, I'm not sure, but the current bill, which works in all American's favor, does not support the health care of illegal immigrants. By the way, we already pay for them now when they go to the emergency room, right? It would be far more cost effective if they went to a primary care doctor instead on a public plan. Just saying. If that were to happen, I think we should all make them citizens and then get them into the tax loop to contribute to the system. We all know they aren't going away anytime soon and too many industries rely on low wage workers to keep costs down. I would be willing to pay a bit more for food in order to up their wages to something far more reasonable.

Anyway, not saying that is the solution, but, in terms of the current bill, there is nothing there that supports giving health care to illegals. To say otherwise and to propagate such a thing is to propagate a lie.
 
He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.

But let's not forget that Bush did the most he could to ensure the safety of our country after the CIA warning.........He took the entire month before the attack off on vacation!!!:thumbdown

Yup...This country's first appointed President made us all proud!
 
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MSNBC crying about media bias? Pot, meet kettle.
 
That actually makes a little sense on one level. Dear leader cannot stop talking about cable news. He must be watching it intently. Check out his last few speeches. He singles out and attacks cable news about four separate times in his recent sales pitches. Could that be the reason the administration is so spastic lately?
 
He was given a briefing about the possibility of a 9/11 style attack before 9/11, so he did in a way have warning of the attack. I would have voted he knew about it in that poll do to how the question was stated.

Except, he only had an idea of the how, but not the where and when. Without the where and when, the how is irrelevant. It's like telling a local police department that a gang is going to hold up a c-store. If they don't know which c-store, then the information is useless.
 
That actually makes a little sense on one level. Dear leader cannot stop talking about cable news. He must be watching it intently. Check out his last few speeches. He singles out and attacks cable news about four separate times in his recent sales pitches. Could that be the reason the administration is so spastic lately?

Why is it that conservatives have a hard time with the president speaking to the country? It baffles me that a President that is in front of the people far more often is always belittled by the right for being in front of the people. How lame is that? I guess secrecy and lack of access is what they want. :rofl
 
OK.

And as of 2007, 61% of Democrats either believed Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time (35%) or aren't sure (26%).

Who were they watching?

(EDIT: THE POINT, in case you don't follow: you can find a poll to stroke your ego no matter what the topic.)

Good grief, thought we already hashed this one out. I swear I need to channel Barney Frank and say at times talking to some of you has the same benefit as talking to the dining room table. If anything the specific Rasmussen poll just showed that Democrats are more informed.

The question in the Rasmussen poll was "Did bush know about 9/11 before it happened". Anyone that followed the news, read a few books or so, would of course know that Bush was informed in August that Bin Laden was intending on attacking the U.S. by hijacking planes to fly into buildings...you know kind of like what happened on 9/11! Did Bush know before it happened? Well golly folks, he was briefed in August after all about a warning....

But the mass of stupidity we call (R)epugnants only watch FIXed news, which heaped praise and worship on the most incompetent fools of a President. So would the FIXed viewers be aware of Bush's failure to address certain key warnings? Would the FIXed viewers be aware that no WMDs were found? Would the FIXed viewers be aware that there was no al-Qaeda link?

(you know the false link that was told to us while the suspect was under 'torture'? Yep them harsh interogation methods sure do work)

Folks, we are talking about people with a lack of gray matter that can not even figure out that Colbert is mocking them.
 
Ignorance has no party identification
 
Why is it that conservatives have a hard time with the president speaking to the country?

No one likes bad news I guess. its common.

We are going to tax you and tax you and tax you ad infinitum ...One can only take so much before they say something about it.
 
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