Oh and Obama is Bush. Just with an X multiplier.
[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756"]The Obama Deception[/ame]
Patients First: What Is In The Bill?
I am for reform. This is not reform. This is a government takover just like the auto industry and the banks.
If the government was interested in reform they would take the best healthcare optioned most successful insurance company and analyze it, make improvements on, then duplicate and make it available in the medicaid and medicare system. Just remove the 65 age limit and done. Tax welfare for the payments as necessary. Thats milk thats already spilled.
Last edited by akyron; 08-22-09 at 08:53 PM.
Here's what I recommend:
Watch Fox News to get the GOP spin
Watch MSNBC to get the Democrat's spin
split the difference & you are near the truth & then.....
Turn on CSPAN & make up your own mind.
Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 09:00 PM.
"95% of us average taxpayer will pay less than we did under Bush & we aren't paying the $4.00/gallon +...TAX that we paid when the Repubs ran things. Youi never hear these truths from Fox though...Do you?"
To which you responded:
(Sorry....Just sounds like Fox News SPIN to me)
Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 09:27 PM.
First of all, if you are using an NBC article as your source for an article regarding FOX news I hope you realize it will be biased. Fox and NBC are ALWAYS at each other's necks.
But lets look at this "misinformation":
On the issue of illegal immigrants being covered, check these sources:
Will Health Insurance Reform Cover Undocumented Immigrants?
Here are the facts:
* Democrats intentionally left gaping loopholes in the healthcare bill that will allow illegal immigrants to receive taxpayer-funded benefits.
* The bill contains no verification mechanism to ensure that illegal immigrants do not apply for benefits. In fact, Democrats rejected an amendment to close this loophole.
* The bill leaves open the possibility that if one citizen family member is eligible for affordability credits, then the whole family including illegal immigrant family members, are also eligible for the credits.
Ranking Member Lamar Smith said, “The proposed healthcare scheme could force the American people to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants. This is another reason to oppose it.
Hmm...stupid FOX viewers, how DARE they question Obama....
On to Abortion:
Does House Healthcare Bill Fund Abortion? Depends on Whom You Ask - God & Country (usnews.com)
Oh, those STUPID Fox viewers! What idiots!The question revolves largely around an amendment to the House healthcare bill that was adopted by the Energy and Commerce Committee last Thursday. The amendment prohibits federal funds from explicitly subsidizing abortion in the private healthcare plans to be offered through the health insurance exchange (read it here). But it doesn't prevent "the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage" of abortion.
Public option can lead to full government control:
You do realize that this is possible...dont you? The bill doesn't have to specifically say that a single-payer system will be emplemented. It can still happen via competition. And private insurance companies can't print their own money or offer free care now, can they?
Oh, and I guess Obama changed his mind within a year. He said that he was a proponent of a single payer system. He then said "We may not get there immediately". Hmm...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE"]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]
Again, those FOX viewers really are incredibly stupid for thinking these things!
Senate Committee Blocks Anti-Rationing Amendments The Foundry
Amendments designed to prevent this were rejected. Nearly every country with government run healthcare has problems with rationing care, notably GB and Canada.
How can Fox viewers be so STUPID?
There are so many "stupid" people out there, don't you agree?
Well I guess I'm one of them.
Last edited by Lakryte; 08-22-09 at 09:32 PM.
Show me where Obama or I say that the rich will pay for everything??
Again....I say you're just "Spinning."
Last edited by Devil505; 08-22-09 at 09:43 PM.