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MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic'

Yes, the collectivism is intense in the Trump supporter crowd. His supporters seem incapable of critical assessment. What we are seeing is cult-like fanaticism.

Hmmm. Twenty-four hours after the inauguration. More rhetorical excess.
 
Maddow would find something disparaging to say no matter what Trump said.

It's still a little shocking that lacking anything to attack, the empty headed commentator makes crap up, attacks that and them pretends it applies to the subject of her hatred.

I suppose hate makes anyone stupid.
 
The best part is they keep playing up this anti-Semitic angle. The man has Jewish kids and grandkids, and is likely one of the most Pro-Isreal presidents we are likely to have. Does anyone actually believe there is even a possibility of being an anti-semite?

There are so many legitimate things they can criticize him for, but yet they prefer to take everything he says or does out of context or in some cases completely make it up. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Especially in the aftermath of the most anit-Israeli Administration since WW2.

Is it bad to be anti Israel according to the Dems or just bad to be a Republican?

These guys never change. They make crap up, ascribe it to those they hate, condemn those they hate for doing the thing that was never done and then proceed to do that thing.

Railing about the necessity of accepting the election results and then challenging the election results is one of the latest for them.

It never changes and is always predictable. Hypocritical nonsense and idiocy.

It seems strange that people who are really pretty smart keep buying into this strange brand of insanity.
 
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!

Bringing up what happened in Nazi Germany was not especially creative, but Trump is so morally repugnant that it can admittedly be difficult to put into words one's feelings about the man without resorting to history's most extreme examples.

But if it makes you feel any better, no, Trump is not Hitler, so pat yourself on the back for supporting someone who has managed to rise about that bar.
 
Rachel Madcow is the epitome of what Trump was running against. she's a strident shrill shill for the arrogant establishment left

There was no 'Hitlerism' nor any 'Nazisim', nor any antisemitism in Trump's inaugural speech. That's just so much bull****, so much verbal diarrhea, which should only serve to discredit the news media that reported it as a source of fake news, and this should reflect on the entire network that reported such.

Do please note that I maintain that there are legitimate concerns and criticisms, and the honest and factual reporting of such should be credited to the networks that report them in that fashion.

Applying this measure CNN, CBS, ABC, and BuzzFeed have discredited themselves through their own actions, so self inflicted relegation to fake news sources. Fine. So be it. If you traffic in ****, you are bound to get a stink on you.
 
I agree. Promising to create an "Islamic" registry is exactly what Adolf Hitler did for the Jews when he took power. But let's not confuse Trump with Hitler. Trump's nationalism and Fascism is more like that of Benito Mussolini. Running the government like a corporation, and putting power in the hands of the corporate elite (check out his nominations for cabinet positions) is the classical definition of Fascism.

Only problem is that Trump isn't a fascist.

How fascist is Donald Trump? There’s actually a formula for that.
Grading the billionaire on the 11 attributes of fascism.
By John McNeill October 21
John McNeill is a professor of history at Georgetown University.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/21/how-fascist-is-donald-trump-theres-actually-a-formula-for-that/
Donald Trump is a fascist” sounds more like a campaign slogan than an analysis of his political program. But it’s true that the GOP nominee doesn’t fit into America’s conventional party categories, and thoughtful people — authors Robert Kagan and Jeffrey Tucker, among others — have hurled the f-word at him.
Fascism was born in Italy during World War I and came to power with the ex-journalist and war veteran Benito Mussolini in 1922. Since the 1950s, dozens of top historians and political scientists have put fascism, especially the Italian and German versions, under the microscope. They’ve come up with a pretty solid agreement on what it is, both as a political ideology and as a political movement, factoring in all the (sometimes contradictory) things its progenitors said as they ascended to power. As a political ideology, fascism has eight main traits. As a political movement, it has three more. So: Just how fascist is Trump? On the fascist meter, we can award him zero to four “Benitos.”

"Add all this up, and you get 26 out of a possible 44 Benitos. In the fascist derby, Trump is a loser. "
 
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!

I didn't read or hear any opining regarding Trump's speech or the day in general except what his daughters wore (because whatever channel was on my tv started playing again after Three Days of the Condor ended last night). I have to say that I completely agree that Trump's speech was, bluntly, terrifying. He basically said "to the rest of the world, we don't care about you anymore. We only care about ourselves and you're not welcome here." That's a very, very dark way to start an administration.

How do you reconcile the founding of America - where the freedom to come here to escape tyranny and the America that joined with the allies to win two world wars - with a message that explicitly informs the entire world that they can go screw themselves? I'm not one to invoke Hitler, but what Trump said sounded pretty much like... Hitler.
 
No, that is what YOU are seeing. And that still doesn't explain how Trump is fascist. Care to fill in that blank?

Fascism : an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Economic nationalism:

"Donald Trump is an avowed economic nationalist. He promises to put American interests “first” in fashioning trade policy and negotiations. If he fulfills these pledges — and the evidence so far suggests he will — he will redefine America’s global role in a fundamentally deceptive and destructive way."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?client=safari

Religious and racial nationalism:

"According to Shortle, research shows that religious nationalism features particularly heavily among Trump’s supporters. It is part of the reason, she says, that Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims entering the U.S. played so well. It appealed to “this narrow vision of a Christian America,” Shortle says."

"Trump’s comments that Mexico was sending “its most unwanted people into the U.S., in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists,” resonated with some of his supporters who feared that America was becoming overrun by immigrants. On November 1, the Crusader , the official newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan, threw its support behind Trump with a front page article headlined “Make America Great Again.” The article read: “America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great.”"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?client=safari

Authoritarian:

"I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles."

"Strongmen show aggression to the press as part of a slow-drip strategy of discrediting all information that is not dispensed by their close allies. Many were surprised at Trump's rude treatment of CNN at his recent press conference. Calling the media outlet "fake news," he refused to allow reporter Jim Acosta to ask a question. This was classic authoritarian posturing."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...n-playbook-ben-ghiat/index.html?client=safari

Seems to be overflowing with evidence to me.
 
Thats just sour grapes mixed with desperation and has nothing to do with facism.

How does decreasing the scope and size and authority of Govt equate to authortarianism ?

It doesn't, and that's not what President Trump has claimed to do.
 
Bringing up what happened in Nazi Germany was not especially creative, but Trump is so morally repugnant that it can admittedly be difficult to put into words one's feelings about the man without resorting to history's most extreme examples.

But if it makes you feel any better, no, Trump is not Hitler, so pat yourself on the back for supporting someone who has managed to rise about that bar.

Still, Maddow wasn't equivocating President Trump to Hitler. She was more directly associating President Trump with the wealthy Americans who turned a blind eye to WW2 because they wanted to stay out of it.

What i find interesting is that nobody contests the historical accuracy of Maddow's assertion, but still they claim it's somehow unfair in some meaningful way.
 
Fascism : an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
You must not realize that the 'right wing' in this country calls for smaller government with less or no authoritarian tendencies. In fact, the farther right you go, the weaker the state; so weak, in fact, that you people on the left often falsely accuse us of being anarchists who should move to Somalia. So since your first sentence is wrong, there was no real reason for me to read on.
 
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!

do you expect anything or even a shred of honesty out of the left wing media?
it is obvious by now that they are not interested in anything but furthering their
agenda.
 
You must not realize that the 'right wing' in this country calls for smaller government with less or no authoritarian tendencies. In fact, the farther right you go, the weaker the state; so weak, in fact, that you people on the left often falsely accuse us of being anarchists who should move to Somalia. So since your first sentence is wrong, there was no real reason for me to read on.

What they say and what they do are two totally different things. The right wing grows government simply to make rich people richer. They claim they'll make it smaller, then they make it bigger than it's ever been.

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What they say and what they do are two totally different things. The right wing grows government simply to make rich people richer. They claim they'll make it smaller, then they make it bigger than it's ever been.

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RWR achieved Cold War victory with his spending. That's an epochal achievement that made him the second-greatest POTUS of the 20th century after FDR.
 
MSNBC hasn't change a bit. I clicked over there last night once. They had micheal moore on. Thus changing the channel.
 
Fascism : an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Economic nationalism:

"Donald Trump is an avowed economic nationalist. He promises to put American interests “first” in fashioning trade policy and negotiations. If he fulfills these pledges — and the evidence so far suggests he will — he will redefine America’s global role in a fundamentally deceptive and destructive way."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?client=safari

Religious and racial nationalism:

"According to Shortle, research shows that religious nationalism features particularly heavily among Trump’s supporters. It is part of the reason, she says, that Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims entering the U.S. played so well. It appealed to “this narrow vision of a Christian America,” Shortle says."

"Trump’s comments that Mexico was sending “its most unwanted people into the U.S., in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists,” resonated with some of his supporters who feared that America was becoming overrun by immigrants. On November 1, the Crusader , the official newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan, threw its support behind Trump with a front page article headlined “Make America Great Again.” The article read: “America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great.”"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?client=safari

Authoritarian:

"I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles."

"Strongmen show aggression to the press as part of a slow-drip strategy of discrediting all information that is not dispensed by their close allies. Many were surprised at Trump's rude treatment of CNN at his recent press conference. Calling the media outlet "fake news," he refused to allow reporter Jim Acosta to ask a question. This was classic authoritarian posturing."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...n-playbook-ben-ghiat/index.html?client=safari

Seems to be overflowing with evidence to me.

Authoritarian can be part of Fascism, but classical Fascism is corporate control of the government. Donald Trump is that, and to some extent, so was Obama, who had some Wall Street insiders in key positions.
 
RWR achieved Cold War victory with his spending. That's an epochal achievement that made him the second-greatest POTUS of the 20th century after FDR.

...and Teddy, and maybe LBJ and maybe Truman. We could also discuss Wilson.... GHW Bush was also a bit underrated, as was Carter
 
...and Teddy, and maybe LBJ and maybe Truman. We could also discuss Wilson.... GHW Bush was also a bit underrated, as was Carter

Carter is a small-minded prig and Wilson was the most viciously racist POTUS of the 20th century. The others have real achievements to their credit, especially LBJ, but none matches RWR, IMHO.
 
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!

Nota, until I listened to some of the stuff they're saying today I had no idea that the hate for men in general and Donald Trump in particular ran so deep in this country. The accusations and condemnations of anything and everything that can be tied in any way to Trump or one of his supporters is downright frightening.
 
Bringing up what happened in Nazi Germany was not especially creative, but Trump is so morally repugnant that it can admittedly be difficult to put into words one's feelings about the man without resorting to history's most extreme examples.

But if it makes you feel any better, no, Trump is not Hitler, so pat yourself on the back for supporting someone who has managed to rise about that bar.

Find even one post from me that indicates that I was a Trump supporter before the election. You won't.

But Trump is the President now, and I do respect the Office of the Presidency. And a comparison between any United States President is invidious.
 
Nota, until I listened to some of the stuff they're saying today I had no idea that the hate for men in general and Donald Trump in particular ran so deep in this country. The accusations and condemnations of anything and everything that can be tied in any way to Trump or one of his supporters is downright frightening.

It's becoming a pathology. But the MSM may well be cutting its own throat. I laughed when I read Nancy Sinatra's now-removed tweet asking CNN why it lied about what she said.
 

That is overshadowed by the growth of government, including a hefty pay raise for the rich that they don't have to work any harder for.

"Trump campaigned heartily on a spending splurge and nothing he’s said since his shocking election suggests he will reverse course. Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, meanwhile, are papering over divisions with the man who frequently tossed party orthodoxy aside on the trail.

“There is now a real risk that we will see an onslaught of deficit-financed goodies — tax cuts, infrastructure spending, more on defense — all in the name of stimulus, but which in reality will massively balloon the debt,” said Maya MacGuineas, president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget."

GOP and Trump put deficit on back burner - POLITICO
 
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