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MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic'

Abbazorkzog said:
Wanting a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" (his words, not mine) is what an Islamophobic person would want.
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Too bad you cant deal with the idea, that you need to concentrate on the alleged sinning nature of the speaker. THis is exactly the tack the Church took against those who spoke against it so I say that this is exactly what an unjust power would say to those who attempt to undermine it, attempt to bring power to the people.

I also say that you are on the wrong side of history.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
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The hate in that region for the west started with two major actions in history - both European, not American - the Crusades, and colonization in the following decades culminating in the partitioning of "countries" that have nothing to do with tribal or religious sect loyalties and have caused nothing but sectarian war and strife ever since, especially since the 1939 United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine.

But if you really want to know how it all started, you need to go back even further. To the first century when Christ was born, and again in the sixth century when Muhammad was born. It's pretty much been a mess ever since then, and it just gets worse with time.

But the US has some blame also, but not for starting it, or creating it, or even making it all that worse. Russia has had a hand in it also (it being ME unrest).

You can't just blame the US. No matter how good it makes you feel to do so.
 
nota bene said:
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!
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"America First" has a lot of baggage.

[h=3]America First Committee - Wikipedia[/h]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee



The America First Committee (AFC) was the foremost non-interventionist pressure group against the American entry into World War II. Peaking at 800,000 paid ...Revenue (1940)‎: ‎$370,000
Founded at‎: ‎Yale University‎, ‎New Haven, Con...

Membership (1941)‎: ‎800,000
Purpose‎: ‎Non-interventionism


 
Abbazorkzog said:
Wanting a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" (his words, not mine) is what an Islamophobic person would want.
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No, that's you projecting your political belief and ignoring the underlying reason for Trump's position, or even mine with in a lot of ways parallels. It's at the least an intellectually dishonest position under the cover of the race card and at worst is a willful abuse of the race card for political gain.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
That's not the point. Europe is being damn near crippled because of the mess we made in the Middle-East with Iraq, that began these issues, and are now refusing to shoulder at least part the burden of the people we made homeless.
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Those aren't Iraqis flooding into Europe.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
That's not the point. Europe is being damn near crippled because of the mess we made in the Middle-East with Iraq, that began these issues, and are now refusing to shoulder at least part the burden of the people we made homeless.
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More specifically the failed Middle East foreign policy and actions of Obama, Hillary, and Kerry.
 
apdst said:
Those aren't Iraqis flooding into Europe.
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He's playing the "Bush is evil, America is evil look what they started." card. See by Invading Iraq we destabilized the region all to give Haliburton oil riches so Dick Cheney could make good on his promises to his business buddies all while using W's daddy issues over Saddam trying to kill HW back in the 90's to start this war for oil. This caused the region to chaos and the rise of just and righteous warriors who, sadly have caused some stress to civilians who are forced to flee the American caused calamities in the Middle East, just seeking a safe place to raise their families and that RACIST BASTARD TRUMP WANTS TO MAKE EM STOP JUST CAUSE A FEW Just Warriors, whose righteous rage at America is totally understandable, have fled with these poor pilgrims, victims of the terrible American Nation that must pay the blood dues it's dark past has written checks for.
 
nota bene said:
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!
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The ridiculous ****, verbal diarrhea, that comes out of her mouth. :roll: :doh
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Moderate, sane Muslims don't "slaughter hundreds of innocents" or "knock down sky scrapers". But, hey, let's all put them into a ****ing registry! Piss off a bunch of white supremacists with a bunch of lies! And spew a bunch of insane rhetoric about building a wall! What the **** could go wrong!?
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Trump was talking about Islamic terrorists. Not Islam or Moslems but just those people that are committing terrorists acts. And Moslems are not a race so there's no reason to call it racism. Hopefully others are not as stereotyping as you seem to be and immediately equate all Moslems with Islamic terrorists. My Moslem brother and sister-in-law voted for the guy.
 
Renae said:
No, that's you projecting your political belief and ignoring the underlying reason for Trump's position, or even mine with in a lot of ways parallels. It's at the least an intellectually dishonest position under the cover of the race card and at worst is a willful abuse of the race card for political gain.
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Muslims aren't a race. Your argument is invalid.
 
I caught, like, 2 minutes of the speech and I liked what I heard.

Looking forward to watching the YouTube of his full speech later on tonight.
 
Captain America said:
I caught, like, 2 minutes of the speech and I liked what I heard.

Looking forward to watching the YouTube of his full speech later on tonight.
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It was okay. But a speech is just a speech.

It's his actions that will truly matter in the long run.
 
Renae said:
... it's a catch all and you're deflecting now.

Caught RED handed.
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No, your argument is invalid. :shrug: That is all.
Its not deflecting simply because you invalidate your own argument..
 
Abbazorkzog said:
No, your argument is invalid. :shrug: That is all.
Its not deflecting simply because you invalidate your own argument..
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Not really, but you are welcome to display your... views, I don't mind others seeing it.
 
Renae said:
No, he's hostile towards radical islamist that use the misguided compassion of PC heartstringers like you to inflict great harm.
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That's the excuse he uses to claim that we should materially harm MUSLIMS, as a group, by unconstitutionally violating their rights.
 
Absentglare said:
That's the excuse he uses to claim that we should materially harm MUSLIMS, as a group, by unconstitutionally violating their rights.
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Non-Citizens don't have constitutional rights...
 
nota bene said:
From Fox News:

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow emotionally proclaimed Trump's "America's First" slogan has "very dark echoes in American history."

...Over on ABC, journalist Terry Moran echoed Maddow's comments saying Trump's speech reminded him of the 1930s.

"It carries with it overtones from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying, 'We don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the Jews fault in Germany!'" MSNBC, ABC hosts deem Trump inaugural address as 'militant,' 'anti-Semitic' | Fox News

Were they listening to the same speech I was?!
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Rachel Madcow is the epitome of what Trump was running against. she's a strident shrill shill for the arrogant establishment left
 
Toure is having a bit of a meltdown today on Twitter:

Touré ‏@Toure 8h8 hours ago

I feel unsafe.


....is just one tweet during the Inauguration Ceremony today.
 
Renae said:
Non-Citizens don't have constitutional rights...
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And yet American citizens do have rights, like the right to a trial and the right to not be unconstitutionally surveilled if they happen to go to a mosque.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
The right-wing theocratic Gulf States did (when they refused to take them in, just like Trump's America).
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They could have went to Africa, they could have stayed at the borders of those countries until they let them in, or they could have stayed and fight.gain no one told those European countries they had to accept those refugees.
 
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