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Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts..NBC FAIL

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517 words, none of them say that Obama did the exact same thing:
Trump'''s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is '''Risky Move''': Experts - NBC News


Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts

A plan by Donald Trump to turf out dozens of ambassadors on the day he takes office risks months of uncertainty in some of the most sensitive parts of the world, according to several experts.

The president-elect's stance that all politically appointed ambassadors must, with no exceptions, be gone from Day One risks cutting off nations' direct line to the president while Congress wades through the lengthy process of approving their successors, analysts said.

This could be especially pertinent because of Trump's penchant for making candid foreign policy statements from his Twitter account; a good ambassador might be able to provide their host government with reassurances and explanation perhaps absent from the president-elect's forthright 140-character messages
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The embassies would not be rudderless during this time. When there is no ambassador the deputy mission chief takes over as what's known as a "chargé d'affaires."

These people are almost always senior career diplomats themselves, and perhaps even more versed in foreign policy than their politically appointed bosses.
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These jokers cant even keep from contradicting themselves on the main premise of their story, in their story which is a false narrative, a case of

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Hawkeye10 said:
517 words, none of them say that Obama did the exact same thing:
Trump'''s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is '''Risky Move''': Experts - NBC News


Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts



These jokers cant even keep from contradicting themselves on the main premise of their story, in their story which is a false narrative, a case of

ANTI-TRUMP PROPAGANDA
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We elected the one that had no experience. If this chaos were the extent of the damage we must expect, we would be very lucky, indeed. That is something our allies could much better forgive than the loose cannon ally that I fear we are signaling we are. But Mad Max seemsto have made the right sounds as have some of the other folks Trump nominated. So let's just see. There is nothing we can do right now and doing a Lewis at this point only makes sense as a populism to rally the herd and circle the wagons.

That does not mean it doesn't make sense to mention the numerous oddities being produced.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
517 words, none of them say that Obama did the exact same thing:
Trump'''s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is '''Risky Move''': Experts - NBC News


Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts



These jokers cant even keep from contradicting themselves on the main premise of their story, in their story which is a false narrative, a case of

ANTI-TRUMP PROPAGANDA
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No problem. As it says when an Ambassador departs, permanently or on leave, the Deputy Head of Mission steps up. Something I did myself on several occasions for months at a time.

In US Embassy's the DHM is always a career officer who, if the Ambassador is a political appointee, has probably been running the Embassy already.
 
Just another BS story from the BS media. This is what will happen for the next 4 years.
Attack every thing that happens during the Trump adminstration.

Every new President recalls all politically appointed ambassadors. Normal procedure!
 
This is nothing new, and nothing unique to Trump. Obama did the same, as did Bush (43), and Reagan, and so forth.

These people making up these faux outrages and outright saying that Trump is not a legitimate President (Lewis, et al) are going to push this nation to civil war if they don't stop.

The people that supported Trump will not stand for any delegitimizing of their votes and their will - hell, that's the very reason most of them voted for Trump in the first place.

If Obama was concerned about people clinging to their Bibles and their guns back in 2008, many Progressives as well as certain minority leaders just might find out how hard those folks will not only cling to their Bible and their guns, but will also cling to the Constitution and the spirit that created this country by using those Bibles and guns to sweep away the threats to the Constitution and the historical American way of life.

People need to be extremely careful - on both sides.

EDIT: Just found this from 2015, where Obama doubled down. This shows that, in addition to recent examples like the one in the OP, the Democratic Party leadership and their supporters in the press, just don't get it. They do not, for the life of them, understand what, how, or who the average American is, feels, and wants, when it comes to their daily lives.

Obama revives his ‘cling to guns or religion’ analysis — for Donald Trump supporters | Washington Post - December 21, 2015
 
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This is nothing new, and nothing unique to Trump. Obama did the same, as did Bush (43), and Reagan, and so forth.

These people making up these faux outrages and outright saying that Trump is not a legitimate President (Lewis, et al) are going to push this nation to civil war if they don't stop.

The people that supported Trump will not stand for any delegitimizing of their votes and their will - hell, that's the very reason most of them voted for Trump in the first place.

If Obama was concerned about people clinging to their Bibles and their guns back in 2008, many Progressives as well as certain minority leaders just might find out how hard those folks will not only cling to their Bible and their guns, but will also cling to the Constitution and the spirit that created this country by using those Bibles and guns to sweep away the threats to the Constitution and the historical American way of life.

People need to be extremely careful - on both sides.
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Completely agree. It's beginning to get scarey.

Trump himself needs to look at reconciliation and stop fueling the fire with his tweets.
 
The State Department is chock full of CIA agents of the Deep State that will keep the wheels turning, except we don't know their agenda. Top secret, don't ya' know? This is like CIA assets in the Mainstream Media. What's their agenda? Top secret, don't ya' know? This is like CIA agents in State Governments (ask Jesse Ventura). What's their agenda? Top secret, don't ya' know? Just making a point.
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MaggieD said:
Completely agree. It's beginning to get scarey.

Trump himself needs to look at reconciliation and stop fueling the fire with his tweets.
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Someone that has the ability and power to do so, needs to get Trump to realize that after this coming Friday, he IS PRESIDENT, and he needs to act like he's the leader of the free world, and not a 6th grader on Twitter with his constant "Well, if you call me that, I'll call you this."

At first it was kind of funny to watch. It's gotten embarrassing now.

However, none of that excuses the way many Democrats have done their dead level best to delegitimize his Presidency and him. They don't seem to understand, or care, how what they do is harming and weakening this country even more than what Trump does on Twitter.

I'm actually rather concerned about our future, and whether violence in the street may be a real potential if things don't change.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
517 words, none of them say that Obama did the exact same thing:
Trump'''s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is '''Risky Move''': Experts - NBC News


Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts



These jokers cant even keep from contradicting themselves on the main premise of their story, in their story which is a false narrative, a case of

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So in other words you want Trump to be just like Obama.

Noted.

Gee, for people who hated Obama so much you spend an awful lot of time hoping Trump will do the exact same things as him.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
517 words, none of them say that Obama did the exact same thing:
Trump'''s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is '''Risky Move''': Experts - NBC News


Trump’s Plan to Quickly Recall Ambassadors Is ‘Risky Move’: Experts



These jokers cant even keep from contradicting themselves on the main premise of their story, in their story which is a false narrative, a case of

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Indeed. Just more of the same biased BS from the left's partners in the MSM.

Need people be reminded:

EXCLUSIVE: Career diplomats protest Obama appointments - Washington Times

By Nicholas Kralev - The Washington Times - Friday, July 10, 2009

The White House, unaware of historic norms, had been on track to give more than the usual 30 percent of ambassadorial jobs to political appointees until objections from career diplomats forced it to reconsider, administration officials say.
 
Tigerace117 said:
So in other words you want Trump to be just like Obama.

Noted.

Gee, for people who hated Obama so much you spend an awful lot of time hoping Trump will do the exact same things as him.
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This is routine when the White House changes hands. It's not just Obama; it has happened with every new incoming POTUS​. The headline is fake news.
 
Beaudreaux said:
This is nothing new, and nothing unique to Trump. Obama did the same, as did Bush (43), and Reagan, and so forth.

These people making up these faux outrages and outright saying that Trump is not a legitimate President (Lewis, et al) are going to push this nation to civil war if they don't stop.

The people that supported Trump will not stand for any delegitimizing of their votes and their will - hell, that's the very reason most of them voted for Trump in the first place.

If Obama was concerned about people clinging to their Bibles and their guns back in 2008, many Progressives as well as certain minority leaders just might find out how hard those folks will not only cling to their Bible and their guns, but will also cling to the Constitution and the spirit that created this country by using those Bibles and guns to sweep away the threats to the Constitution and the historical American way of life.
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Are you suggesting that conservatives as a group are such loose cannons that, unless "the left" lets them have their way, they might decide to massacre "the left"?

And to think, I just saw a thread alleging that it's the "left" that is violent.




That would not only be psychotically violent, but would also be (unsurprisingly) massive hypocrisy. The right spent the last several years using everything to obstruct Obama, be it congressional maneuvering, smears propagated by the help of right-biased media, and so on.

It really is quite disgusting to see all these conservatives getting all self-righteously moralistic about politics after the way they've been behaving. And, seriously, the histrionics about threatening to kill liberals is idiotic.





(And no, please don't try to say that you meant something else when you said "by using those Bibles and guns to sweep away the threats to the Constitution and the historical American way of life.". Nobody is going to conclude that what you actually meant was that conservatives would build brooms by tying bibles to guns, then go sweeping).
 
Jack Hays said:
This is routine when the White House changes hands. It's not just Obama; it has happened with every new incoming POTUS​. The headline is fake news.
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That doesn't change the fact that, for all the crying and carrying on about Obama, Trump supporters seem to want him to be just like Obama.
 
Tigerace117 said:
That doesn't change the fact that, for all the crying and carrying on about Obama, Trump supporters seem to want him to be just like Obama.
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He's being just like every other POTUS-elect. There's no issue here.
 
Beaudreaux said:
This is nothing new, and nothing unique to Trump. Obama did the same, as did Bush (43), and Reagan, and so forth.

These people making up these faux outrages and outright saying that Trump is not a legitimate President (Lewis, et al) are going to push this nation to civil war if they don't stop.

The people that supported Trump will not stand for any delegitimizing of their votes and their will - hell, that's the very reason most of them voted for Trump in the first place.

If Obama was concerned about people clinging to their Bibles and their guns back in 2008, many Progressives as well as certain minority leaders just might find out how hard those folks will not only cling to their Bible and their guns, but will also cling to the Constitution and the spirit that created this country by using those Bibles and guns to sweep away the threats to the Constitution and the historical American way of life.

People need to be extremely careful - on both sides.

EDIT: Just found this from 2015, where Obama doubled down. This shows that, in addition to recent examples like the one in the OP, the Democratic Party leadership and their supporters in the press, just don't get it. They do not, for the life of them, understand what, how, or who the average American is, feels, and wants, when it comes to their daily lives.

Obama revives his ‘cling to guns or religion’ analysis — for Donald Trump supporters | Washington Post - December 21, 2015
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Good. That way this time we can make the lesson stick in people's minds. I think it's a damn shame that we allowed the same old bastards who'd be running the south prior to the Civil War right back into power after a few years.

Entire ethnic groups have been wiped out for far less sustained craziness than the would be secessionists have shown over the years. If people want to try for round two, well......they'll be crushed and their ideology discredited once and for all. The vaguely ominous phrasing you have used just proves the same old delusions haven't gone away.
 
Jack Hays said:
He's being just like every other POTUS-elect. There's no issue here.
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Does every other POTUS elect make a point of declaring that he knows more than the generals? Or, for that matter, than the people whose job it is to find out what other countries want to do?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Does every other POTUS elect make a point of declaring that he knows more than the generals? Or, for that matter, than the people whose job it is to find out what other countries want to do?
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Those are separate questions. I have little regard for Trump, but in this matter he and his team are merely following established custom and practice. Ambassadors routinely submit their resignations when the White House changes hands.
 
This is such a non-story. First, the recall is most likely only going to affect politically appointed Ambassadors. I have worked in 8 embassies and the career foreign service officers that serve as Deputy Chiefs of Mission are almost always more competent than the politically appointed Ambassadors who usually got the job in the first place by donating a lot of money to the campaign or for other political favors.
 
BrewerBob said:
This is such a non-story. First, the recall is most likely only going to affect politically appointed Ambassadors. I have worked in 8 embassies and the career foreign service officers that serve as Deputy Chiefs of Mission are almost always more competent than the politically appointed Ambassadors who usually got the job in the first place by donating a lot of money to the campaign or for other political favors.
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Agreed. America's friends find the practise of appointing cronies and fund-givers as Ambassadors as strange and sometimes insulting. Other countries' diplomats often feel sympathy for US DHM's obliged to try to make an Embassy function under some ignorant instant Ambassador.
 
Sweden said:
Agreed. America's friends find the practise of appointing cronies and fund-givers as Ambassadors as strange and sometimes insulting. Other countries' diplomats often feel sympathy for US DHM's obliged to try to make an Embassy function under some ignorant instant Ambassador.
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Yeah, about 1/3 of our Ambassadors are political appointments. If I remember correctly Sweden is among them.
 
Sweden said:
Agreed. America's friends find the practise of appointing cronies and fund-givers as Ambassadors as strange and sometimes insulting. Other countries' diplomats often feel sympathy for US DHM's obliged to try to make an Embassy function under some ignorant instant Ambassador.
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Many countries other than the US also make political appointments as Ambassadors.
 
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