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The Trump "No Answer" on Russian Associations during 01/11/2017 Press Conference

LowDown said:
The press can't filter tweets. They go directly to the people. More valid than press reports.
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Bugs the crap out of them, doesn't it?
 
jimbo said:
For me, a Trump voter, the answer is no. Neither did the stuff released about Hillary.

Hillary's past record stood on its own. And I saw nothing new.

What I saw of the Trump stuff was the Democrats sitting around a haystack, looking for the needle, and trying to turn a straw into prime beef.
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what if it was verified(everything i'm seeing is that it has been) that the russians definitely interfered?
 
jimbo said:
Most people aren't Trump. Previous Presidents didn't bother communicating with the people, but rather sent out the lacky's with prepared statements on Sunday morning, and the press bowed appropriately. I like the raw personal communication. Warts and all.

Tres, I believe you are incorrect that most people don't get daily communications via Twitter or Facebook or whatever. That's where they communicate, and that's one of the reasons Trump won.
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I never mentioned Facebook.

There are 320 million people in this country. Please post a link that shows that most of them are on Twitter every day, and most of them follow Donald Trump.
 
DaveFagan said:
Since Trump won the election, he has been disparaged by the Mainstream Media. I don't think he trusts them and he owes a little revenge. He'll get it. Pay attention to which sources were pushing the fake news on Putin and the false Russian inferences. Paybacks a bitch, eh?
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Trump benefited to the tune of $30 billion in news coverage of his campaign.....

And yes, 'payback' is always a bitch...especially when the other side also gets to pay back.

The US has been paying each side back for petty injustices since the 60's. That's nothing gets done, a crumbling infrastructure, a moribund educational system, the highest incarceration, murder, crime and single family parent rates in the world.....and your congresses fight imaginary wars to "shut down" government...which really is nothing more than paid leave for civil servants.

Keep encouraging that 'pay back' as a house divided cannot stand. Some ares of thinking suggested the US will become three or four different nations in a matter of time....this looks like it could be it.

This past election divided America more than at any time in history.....and you all seem still and soundly determined to fight each other.

Yeah, but you'll howl to the moon screaming "unfair" when the Democrats next have the opportunity to "pay back" and that sir, will be sooner than you think I suspect.
 
Obama had all the answers before he took the oath.

He was supposedly the smartest man in the room, and we were all told to sit back and and accept his words.

Then he got his community organizer azz humiliated for 8 years in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, the Isis JV team, and Putin.
 
randel said:
what if it was verified(everything i'm seeing is that it has been) that the russians definitely interfered?
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Still no. The presumption that somehow other countries should act in their own best interest should be a given. We do it. Think Cuba (twice). Think Brexit. Think Israel. And we should.

Everything I'm seeing it is that it hasn't been.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Trump benefited to the tune of $30 billion in news coverage of his campaign.....

And yes, 'payback' is always a bitch...especially when the other side also gets to pay back.

The US has been paying each side back for petty injustices since the 60's. That's nothing gets done, a crumbling infrastructure, a moribund educational system, the highest incarceration, murder, crime and single family parent rates in the world.....and your congresses fight imaginary wars to "shut down" government...which really is nothing more than paid leave for civil servants.

Keep encouraging that 'pay back' as a house divided cannot stand. Some ares of thinking suggested the US will become three or four different nations in a matter of time....this looks like it could be it.

This past election divided America more than at any time in history.....and you all seem still and soundly determined to fight each other.

Yeah, but you'll howl to the moon screaming "unfair" when the Democrats next have the opportunity to "pay back" and that sir, will be sooner than you think I suspect.
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If Trump benefited from the press to the tune of 30 billion, and that number is probably low, then it must follow that Trump is better at playing the hostile press including all the media and therefore ran a masterful campaign. Trump is also the first candidate to recognize the value of the social media. It seems like Hillary is not the smartest person in the room after all.
 
jimbo said:
If Trump benefited from the press to the tune of 30 billion, and that number is probably low, then it must follow that Trump is better at playing the hostile press including all the media and therefore ran a masterful campaign. Trump is also the first candidate to recognize the value of the social media. It seems like Hillary is not the smartest person in the room after all.
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You seemed to have forgotten Obama in 2008. Obama's team mastered the art of using social media.
 
tres borrachos said:
You seemed to have forgotten Obama in 2008. Obama's team mastered the art of using social media.
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Hillary and Trump both used it and made fools of themselves. The difference being that Trump did it on purpose to troll the left (and therefore embolden his supporters) and Hillary came off looking like a grandma trying too hard to be cool.
 
jimbo said:
Bugs the crap out of them, doesn't it?
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Yes, they have been trying like hell to destroy Trump for months and nothing works. He calls CNN "fake news" and "a terrible organization" and his people cheer.
 
tres borrachos said:
I never mentioned Facebook.

There are 320 million people in this country. Please post a link that shows that most of them are on Twitter every day, and most of them follow Donald Trump.
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You didn't. I lumped all the social media together. I have no data other than my personal observations. I don't text. I have no idea how to tweet. I'm pushing 79 and I'm the only one in my family or social circle that communicates via the spoken word.

I think Trump showed that social media is the way many people get their news and communicate.

If nothing else he should go down as the candidate who changed how campaigns were conducted.
 
jimbo said:
You didn't. I lumped all the social media together. I have no data other than my personal observations. I don't text. I have no idea how to tweet. I'm pushing 79 and I'm the only one in my family or social circle that communicates via the spoken word.

I think Trump showed that social media is the way many people get their news and communicate.

If nothing else he should go down as the candidate who changed how campaigns were conducted.
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I was talking about how many people got their news/message/communication about or from Trump via Twitter. This isn't complicated. You said that most people do. I would like you to back that up, please.

And no, Obama will go down as the one who mastered Social Media for his campaigning success. He was 8 years ahead of Trump, and everyone knows that he made an art out of it. Even I begrudgingly admitted that both times I didn't vote for him.
 
Objective Voice said:
I have to say I am stunned! :shock:

When asked and then further pressed at the end of his national press conference, President-elect Donald J. Trump refused to answer the direct question as to whether or not he or anyone directly connected to him or if anyone from his campaign had any association with Russian intelligence. Trump went on a long rant (once again) about how Russia, China, Japan, Mexico and all other nations would respect America once he became President, but on the question of Russian intelligence associations itself, he outright refused to answer the question even when further pressed after his press conference but before leaving the conference area.

No "no comment", no "I don't know, but I'll look into it"...nothing. He just walked off the stage and refused to answer.

To me, that rebuff/non-answer is more disturbing than the contents of any domestic intelligence report whether compiled by our federal intelligence agencies or some private investigative/consulting firm.
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If he said no, you would say he's lying. Instead, he gives some far out response; coercing people to talk about the far out answer, instead.

And Libbos call him stupid. :lamo
 
Chomsky said:
I think your statement here is an accurate portrayal of what he said earlier concerning his business ties, but he completely blew-off the later question when asked if his campaign or surrogates had approached Putin.

He sidestepped it completely, and abruptly ended the conference.

It's in the transcript, if you're interested:

NYT: Donald Trump’s News Conference: Full Transcript and Video
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I watched the news conference. And I think he said all that was necessary to say regarding Russia at this time. He didn't blow off anything. He chose not to answer a question that was probably quite advisable not to answer given the current dishonesty of the media and their propensity to misrepresent what he does say. If he has been in quiet discussion with Russia in an effort to find some common ground or interests, he won't be stupid enough to allow the media to blow that up into something that it is not.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I watched the news conference. And I think he said all that was necessary to say regarding Russia at this time. He didn't blow off anything. He chose not to answer a question that was probably quite advisable not to answer given the current dishonesty of the media and their propensity to misrepresent what he does say. If he has been in quiet discussion with Russia in an effort to find some common ground or interests, he won't be stupid enough to allow the media to blow that up into something that it is not.
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According to NBC news, he did actually answer the question with a "No" on the way to the elevator, but he did neglect to comment the first time it was asked.

That's my present understanding, at least, and i have to give him credit for it.
 
Objective Voice said:
I have to say I am stunned! :shock:

When asked and then further pressed at the end of his national press conference, President-elect Donald J. Trump refused to answer the direct question as to whether or not he or anyone directly connected to him or if anyone from his campaign had any association with Russian intelligence. Trump went on a long rant (once again) about how Russia, China, Japan, Mexico and all other nations would respect America once he became President, but on the question of Russian intelligence associations itself, he outright refused to answer the question even when further pressed after his press conference but before leaving the conference area.

No "no comment", no "I don't know, but I'll look into it"...nothing. He just walked off the stage and refused to answer.

To me, that rebuff/non-answer is more disturbing than the contents of any domestic intelligence report whether compiled by our federal intelligence agencies or some private investigative/consulting firm.
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Trump and his people have taken the position that the claims are fake news and unworthy of reply.

How BuzzFeed crossed the line in publishing salacious ‘dossier’ on Trump




Once BuzzFeed published, of course, the dam burst. Slate followed, publishing the documents itself, and anyone in the world had access with a few keystrokes.

 
Absentglare said:
According to NBC news, he did actually answer the question with a "No" on the way to the elevator, but he did neglect to comment the first time it was asked.

That's my present understanding, at least, and i have to give him credit for it.
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I think I was probably away from the TV at that time so thanks for that. Trump is an excellent extemporaneous speaker but he does have a tendency to incorporate several different things into a single spoken paragraph or whatever, so he doesn't say some things he probably intended to say and inserts some stuff he had no idea he was going to say. :)

And since I didn't know what, if any, communications he had had with Putin or Putin's people, I didn't know what he might choose to say or not say about that. I do know Trump has been around the block enough times and has enough experience with a thoroughly dishonest media, he probably doesn't say all he knows about much of anything.
 
jmotivator said:
So I am guessing you didn't watch it? There were tons of questions asked and answered.
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He gave no new information about healthcare, he still has not condemned Russia on the hacking, and there are alot of questions about his business dealings that I am sure the press would like to have asked. And denying a reporter to ask a question because he didn't like what they said shows he is very childish. It was a total joke.
 
Carleen said:
He gave no new information about healthcare, he still has not condemned Russia on the hacking, and there are alot of questions about his business dealings that I am sure the press would like to have asked. And denying a reporter to ask a question because he didn't like what they said shows he is very childish. It was a total joke.
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"childish" seems to be the popular word to describe him...he also has no plans to divest himself from his busninesses....he will let his sons 'run' them...sure he will
 
trumposters getting a taste of their own dishonest medicine for the last 8+ years;
versus what hasn't been proven false yet.

ADL: trump's nazi comments trivialize the Holocaust;

trump packs his news conference with paid aides to jeer reporters.
no wonder trump approved of strongman mussolini .
 
randel said:
"childish" seems to be the popular word to describe him...he also has no plans to divest himself from his busninesses....he will let his sons 'run' them...sure he will
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It sure raises a lot more questions after his lawyer spoke at the news conference. I have a feeling that this is how he will hold press conferences from now on. He'll put the person out there who heads the department and will not answer questions himself. This is how he runs his business and will run his presidency and will continue to condemn anyone who criticizes him. Ugh
 
Carleen said:
It sure raises a lot more questions after his lawyer spoke at the news conference. I have a feeling that this is how he will hold press conferences from now on. He'll put the person out there who heads the department and will not answer questions himself. This is how he runs his business and will run his presidency and will continue to condemn anyone who criticizes him. Ugh
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yep...either a long 4years or it will feel like it before his own party turns on him
 
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