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Bill O'Reilly Says Electoral College Protects the "White Establishment"

Hatuey said:
I think O'Reilly is going through something very similar to what happened to Navy Pride before he died. As he got older, he simply stopped giving a **** and just started saying weirdly crazy **** that he wouldn't have believed 50 years earlier.

Do we really need to say it?
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That can pretty much sum up this entire election. Conservatives are getting older and they feel marginalized. That's basically what all their talking points boil down to right now. There are no jobs. There are less whites. We can't let this continue. We have to make America great again. We have to go back to the way things were. The electoral college is need to protect the white establishment. it's a stupid argument for the electoral college. It's a stupid argument for America. It's a stupid argument. That seems to happen to people who drink the Trump Kool-Aid.

I once said that this election was the Last Great White Hope. Bill O'Reilly made it come full circle.
 
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Hatuey said:
Who are you and why do you keep addressing me like I should care about your opinion?

Anywho, that white establishment Bill O'Reilly keeps talking about. I wonder how long it'll be before we revert to it not existing? I think O'Reilly is going through something very similar to what happened to Navy Pride before he died. As he got older, he simply stopped giving a **** and just started saying weirdly crazy **** that he wouldn't have believed 50 years earlier.

Only in O'Reilly's case, we're just hearing it from a guy who actually talks to politicians and almost got shot during the Falkans (according to his account anyways). We're finally starting to hear what we knew was there after 9/11.

I mean back then, it was fine to violate a ton of laws if we were against Muslims. Now, he's just isolated white people and told them that they're threatened by the evil minority hordes (why are minorities who form a majority... called minorities?) in the cities.

Do we really need to say it?
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If the present trend continues, Whites will be a minority in America by 2024. I'm OK with that, but I understand that some White people are very afraid of it. It is what it is. I don't feel threatened.
 
danarhea said:
If the present trend continues, Whites will be a minority in America by 2024. I'm OK with that, but I understand that some White people are very afraid of it. It is what it is. I don't feel threatened.
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The whole thing is virulent. If Sharpton went on television and told black people that whites want to take power away from them, some Conservatives would be calling him a racist. Now, apparently, not only does the white establishment exist, it's threatened if we don't have an Electoral College.

These guys have no idea what they signed up for.... they're going to be testing a lot of weird waters now that Trump has won. We saw it already with Rep. King challenging the premise that any sub-groups of people have contributed to our society.

Now this.
 
Hatuey said:
The whole thing is virulent. If Sharpton went on television and told black people that whites want to take power away from them, some Conservatives would be calling him a racist. Now, apparently, not only does the white establishment exist, it's threatened if we don't have an Electoral College.

These guys have no idea what they signed up for.... they're going to be testing a lot of weird waters now that Trump has won. We saw it already with Rep. King challenging the premise that any sub-groups of people have contributed to our society.

Now this.
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I predict buyers remorse within 6 months.
 
danarhea said:
I predict buyers remorse within 6 months.
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I don't think it'll be that easy. Trumpettes have shown themselves pretty much impervious to criticisms of Trump. He'd have to REALLY screw up for the winds to change.
 
Hatuey said:
I don't think it'll be that easy. Trumpettes have shown themselves pretty much impervious to criticisms of Trump. He'd have to REALLY screw up for the winds to change.
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Trump is going to hit them right where it hurts. The pocketbook. The programs that Republicans are talking about messing with, namely Medicare and Social Security, affects red states just as much as blue states. And food stamps? Red States use them a lot more.
 
danarhea said:
I predict buyers remorse within 6 months.
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But. But. But. Where's the wall???

Trump is the equivalent of what they were complaining about for 16 years while we sane Republicans picked McCain even though he chose Sarah Palin to please people like this. Then we picked Romney. Trump is going to be way more moderate than Romney because contrary to popular belief Romney has some principles. I say this with caution now because of his sit-down with Trump, but I think that says more about Trump than Romney. Romney thought he was going to get the job. Trump was the one that took it away and Romney stood by his gut and wouldn't apologize to the nutjob.

Trump lied to the people to get votes. At least McCain and Romney had plans to actually attempt to follow through on some of them!
 
ModerateGOP said:
But. But. But. Where's the wall???

Trump is the equivalent of what they were complaining about for 16 years while we sane Republicans picked McCain even though he chose Sarah Palin to please people like this. Then we picked Romney. Trump is going to be way more moderate than Romney because contrary to popular belief Romney has some principles. I say this with caution now because of his sit-down with Trump, but I think that says more about Trump than Romney. Romney thought he was going to get the job. Trump was the one that took it away and Romney stood by his gut and wouldn't apologize to the nutjob.

Trump lied to the people to get votes. At least McCain and Romney had plans to actually attempt to follow through on some of them!
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Romney was far too inside the bubble to understand how regular Americans felt. Trump was not, and understood the sentiment of ordinary people, but cynically used peoples' hostility towards government to get elected, and lied to them with a straight face. Now he is going to have to do what he said he was going to do. Just one problem. He won't. And McCain? I voted for him. Was going to vote Libertarian as I normally do, but Pelosi pissed me off so much I voted McCain instead.
 
ModerateGOP said:
lolz. Hi Grim! Nice to see your grainy youtube evidence of proof doesn't hold up once again.

In the context of the talking points Memo, O'Reilly said that the left wants power taken away from the white establishment. While he was talking about them getting rid of the electoral college. There isn't really any other way to look at this. What video did you watch?

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You do realize that the left can believe the Electoral college protects "White Establishment" without O'Reilly believing it protects "White Establishment", right?

If I say that the Hale Bop cult wanted to join the Starship Hale-Bopp and that lead them to do horrible things does that mean I believe in the Hale-Bopp starship?

So, let me break that down into manageable pieces:

1) The left believes that the Electoral College protects White Establishment: True.

2) They want to abolish the Electoral College which will cause profound changes in how the American system runs: True.

Do you disagree with either of those?
 
jmotivator said:
You do realize that the left can believe the Electoral college protects "White Establishment" without O'Reilly believing it protects "White Establishment", right?

If I say that the Hale Bop cult wanted to join the Starship Hale-Bopp and that lead them to do horrible things does that mean I believe in the Hale-Bopp starship?

So, let me break that down into manageable pieces:

1) The left believes that the Electoral College protects White Establishment: True.

2) They want to abolish the Electoral College which will cause profound changes in how the American system runs: True.

Do you disagree with either of those?
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The difference is a white conservative establishment person is the first one to actually say it!!!!! I think most of the people who are complaining about the electoral college, and that isn't most of the left, are just the same people who want everything to be a popularity contest. Most votes = win. It's clear most people don't even get the electoral college or why it's there, but I've never seen someone on the left claim that it's there to protect the white establishment. O'Reilly took a legit argument and added racism. Plain and simple.
 
ModerateGOP said:
The difference is a white conservative establishment person is the first one to actually say it!!!!! I think most of the people who are complaining about the electoral college, and that isn't most of the left, are just the same people who want everything to be a popularity contest. Most votes = win. It's clear most people don't even get the electoral college or why it's there, but I've never seen someone on the left claim that it's there to protect the white establishment. O'Reilly took a legit argument and added racism. Plain and simple.
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Ummm... no. He was stating what the left's position and reason for abolishing the EC are. I haven't watched O'Reilly in nearly a decade but the talking points segment was always meant to display a shorthand of what O'Reilly was actually saying in the segment. If anything I think they missed a comma here and that is about it.
 
jmotivator said:
Ummm... no. He was stating what the left's position and reason for abolishing the EC are. I haven't watched O'Reilly in nearly a decade but the talking points segment was always meant to display a shorthand of what O'Reilly was actually saying in the segment. If anything I think they missed a comma here and that is about it.
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IMO, O'Reilly was pointed out the racist approach the left uses to try and gain/maintain power. They, along with their MSM partners, have created the memes about "white establishment" and push it every day.

From what he said, the left calling for an end to the EC is simply an extension of this divisive, bigoted, approach, and an effort to achieve the desired results of the manipulations using race to achieve their objective.

One should expect the left to twist his words over backwards as they try to deny what I believe is the truth behind their efforts.
 
TheGoverness said:
Yeah, definitely not a great argument to make in support of the Electoral College. That doesn't help his position at all.
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Actually I would be all in favor of making the BillO argument front and center in defense of the EC.

At the core of BO' position is the realization that the EC does indeed give extra voting power to white people because they are vastly disproportional in many of those smaller states like Wyoming and the Dakota's where the inequities of the EC are the most blatant. So BO is right - you abolish the EC and you reduce voting power in places like that which would hurt some white voters.

Defending the EC to defend white privilege - yes, lets put that front and center.
 
Grim17 said:
Tell me how what you said above, matches that 3rd headline on post 1 that says "Bill O'Reilly's praises Electoral College for upholding 'white establishment'"?

O'Reilly was expressing his opinion on why the left wants to abolish the electoral college. He believes that it is motivated by race, and right or wrong, his opinion has validity.
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And you believe it? I didn't realize the establish represents white male dominance. A lot of women are part of the establishment. I consider Obama part of the establishment.

Instead of Bill concerning himself with white precents, as a reporter he should be concerned with all voter precents. He said nothing about the Voters Right Act. He only concerns himself with the rights of white. He disparages black people and promotes his prejudice as facts.
 
Grim17 said:
So even though O'Reilly was expressing his opinion about the left, you find it ok to twist that into something he never said.

Keep it up and the following trend will continue.

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Lol. Look at Trump's approval rating and favorability rating. I think you're over estimating what actually happened with the election. Also, the majority of minorities in this country thinks Trump is racist. So your welcome to keep up making excuses for right wing racebaiting, and see where that gets your party.
 
danarhea said:
If the present trend continues, Whites will be a minority in America by 2024. I'm OK with that, but I understand that some White people are very afraid of it. It is what it is. I don't feel threatened.
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I don't understand the fear either. I have been making friends with a lot of Latin immigrants lately. They are so much fun and very nice people.
 
Someone needs to lock that senile, dementia-ridden womanizer in a psych ward.
 
danarhea said:
I predict buyers remorse within 6 months.
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I think it's funny to watch these people making excuses for the racial prejudices Trump and others are engaging in. I hope it becomes undeniable to them at some point. I would like to see how they feel then. Most of them do have a vitimized white complex and a tendency to complain about black peope, black culture, and everything related. They also think its a travesty minorities don't vote GOP, and is proof something is wrong with them.
 
Hatuey said:
I don't think it'll be that easy. Trumpettes have shown themselves pretty much impervious to criticisms of Trump. He'd have to REALLY screw up for the winds to change.
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I agree. Many of them outright say that they refuse to listen to media criticism of him. I also remember how Fox propped up GWB until he was an utter failure.
 
jmotivator said:
You do realize that the left can believe the Electoral college protects "White Establishment" without O'Reilly believing it protects "White Establishment", right?

If I say that the Hale Bop cult wanted to join the Starship Hale-Bopp and that lead them to do horrible things does that mean I believe in the Hale-Bopp starship?

So, let me break that down into manageable pieces:

1) The left believes that the Electoral College protects White Establishment: True.

2) They want to abolish the Electoral College which will cause profound changes in how the American system runs: True.

Do you disagree with either of those?
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Trump is supposed to be anti establishment. He is a white man. He beat an establishment woman. Obama is very establishment and he is not white.

Bill is turning into an all white issue, because he is playing to scared white marginalized audience.
 
ocean515 said:
IMO, O'Reilly was pointed out the racist approach the left uses to try and gain/maintain power. They, along with their MSM partners, have created the memes about "white establishment" and push it every day.

From what he said, the left calling for an end to the EC is simply an extension of this divisive, bigoted, approach, and an effort to achieve the desired results of the manipulations using race to achieve their objective.

One should expect the left to twist his words over backwards as they try to deny what I believe is the truth behind their efforts.
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They fact that he is saying he doesn't want minority votes to count because he is white, is prejudice. The race of a person voting should not matter if they cast a ballot. Put the EC aside, all Bill did was start a debate about an issue that's unacceptable and unAmerican. Everybody has a right to vote. If EC swings because of minorty votes in the future, and it most definately will, what will Bill say then?
 
SheWolf said:
They fact that he is saying he doesn't want minority votes to count because he is white, is prejudice. The race of a person voting should not matter if they cast a ballot. Put the EC aside, all Bill did was start a debate about an issue that's unacceptable and unAmerican. Everybody has a right to vote. If EC swings because of minorty votes in the future, and it most definately will, what will Bill say then?
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Can you direct me to where O'Reilly says he doesn't want minority votes to count because he's white?
 
nota bene said:
Can you direct me to where O'Reilly says he doesn't want minority votes to count because he's white?
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He is implying it. He is defining the Democratic Party as threatening a white established dominance, and telling his mostly white audience to be concerned. It is more of the "we are lossing our country to minorities and immigrants" mentality, and Trump perfectly represents it as well.

It doesn't matter the person's race in this country. We all get to vote. It's inevitable minorities will start to swing the EC too.
 
SheWolf said:
He is implying it. He is defining the Democratic Party as threatening a white established dominance, and telling his mostly white audience to be concerned. It is more of the "we are lossing our country to minorities and immigrants" mentality, and Trump perfectly represents it as well.

It doesn't matter the person's race in this country. We all get to vote. It's inevitable minorities will start to swing the EC too.
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They may.

But I don't think you and I were watching the same O'Reilly clip.
 
Grim17 said:
Tell me how what you said above, matches that 3rd headline on post 1 that says "Bill O'Reilly's praises Electoral College for upholding 'white establishment'"?

O'Reilly was expressing his opinion on why the left wants to abolish the electoral college. He believes that it is motivated by race, and right or wrong, his opinion has validity.
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So why do you want to protect the white establishment? You're making excuses for it. Or is it just that someone criticized a Conservative?
 
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