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In Which Cardinal Expresses His Displeasure with the MSM

The system only lets me post five. You want a zillion more? They're not hard to find.
You can't physically post enough to prove statistical relevance.

I'm sticking with my claim, here.

It's certainly more unhinged. The rhetoric, however, is identical to that applied to every Republican candidate, every time.
The rhetoric is often used on both sides, true, but we have not seen concerns of this depth & breadth before. We have never seen a President summarily dismiss the plethora of data from our intelligence agencies before.
 
You can't physically post enough to prove statistical relevance.

I'm sticking with my claim, here.

What exactly IS your claim?


The rhetoric is often used on both sides, true

There's no tu quoque here; he was referring to, and I responded ABOUT, the left/Democrat sides of things only.

but we have not seen concerns of this depth & breadth before.

Yes, we have; every single time, about every Republican. It's always the same; Hitler this; Fascist that; war, doom, gloom, women dying with coat hangers sticking out of them, the return of slavery, the rich will eat the poor, etc., etc., ad nauseam. Every. Single Time.

It hasn't been this unhinged and desperate in a while, though. I suspect that owes to the supreme overconfidence they had in that they were going to win.

We have never seen a President summarily dismiss the plethora of data from our intelligence agencies before.

You should probably ask Barack "it's the JV team" Obama about that.
 
Hmm... why do I suspect you are in the defense industry?
I would have to say you suspect so because, ummm, to put it politely, perhaps because you have no clue at all as to what you are talking about generally... and in this case, specifically.

I am, that you might have the first clue, a retired former trust banker, among other occupations, turned high school teacher for 17 years...now living in paradise. My self created individual utopia, as it should be, having rejected a pretend one that was being foisted upon me by the current incompetent- and- chief blatherer.

And can I, in return, take it that you work for the CIA intelligence analysis division that somehow missed the collapse of the Soviet Union, said there were WMDs in Iraq, etc...???

Inquiring minds need to know.
 
Much of the country see nothing "stupid" or "ridiculous" with Russia interfering in our election process.

You may, but many here don't.
So what exactly did YOUR guy from the left do about it? My good god, blame it on Bush and when that grew stale, blame it forward on the next Republican. You folks really are ridiculous and have not one ounce of shame among the lot of you.
 
What exactly IS your claim?
You don't remember what you're debating?

Your picking individual incidences to argue a generality.


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There's no tu quoque here; he was referring to, and I responded ABOUT, the left/Democrat sides of things only.
And your posting these pics implied what?

Perhaps I misunderstood.


Yes, we have; every single time, about every Republican. It's always the same; Hitler this; Fascist that; war, doom, gloom, women dying with coat hangers sticking out of them, the return of slavery, the rich will eat the poor, etc., etc., ad nauseam. Every. Single Time.
Not to this extent. Like I said, you're taking incidents as if they're a larger generality.

This time the intelligence agencies are involved and even the same party House is threatening to act. Now that's a larger generality! These isn't some guy in his basement drawing pictures.

It hasn't been this unhinged and desperate in a while, though. I suspect that owes to the supreme overconfidence they had in that they were going to win.
The first claim makes my point exactly. The second is conjecture that I suspect is wrong. You still can't conceive the problem is perceived to be Trump, not Hillary's loss!

You should probably ask Barack "it's the JV team" Obama about that.
I'm not aware of Barack claiming his intelligence agencies were universally wrong. But if you can cite, I'll concede the point. I do remember his incorrect claims though.

BTW - I'm no fan of breaking posts apart into pieces. It's too easily to get confused, as in my topmost reply to you.
 
You don't remember what you're debating?

Of course I do, but your "claim" isn't exactly clear.

What's the "generality," and what are my "individual instances"?



And your posting these pics implied what?

Perhaps I misunderstood.

That the exact same things get said about every Republican candidate, ever. Every single time, it's a Come to Hitler moment for the Democrats. Every. Single. Time.


Not to this extent. Like I said, you're taking incidents as if they're a larger generality.

They represent what happens every time, yes.


This time the intelligence agencies are involved and even the same party House is threatening to act. Now that's a larger generality! These isn't some guy in his basement drawing pictures.

So? Has nothing to do with what the left/Democrats do every single time.

The first claim makes my point exactly. The second is conjecture that I suspect is wrong. You still can't conceive the problem is perceived to be Trump, not Hillary's loss!

What do you mean, I can't "conceive" it? Sure I can conceive it. But I think the histrionics have a LOT to do with the unexpected loss, with a worldview being repudiated in spectactular fashion, and I have no doubt whatsoever it would have been the same with ANY Republican candidate, not just Trump.

How do I know?

I'm not aware of Barack claiming his intelligence agencies were universally wrong.

That's not the question. The question is dismissing the intelligence agencies.

But if you can cite, I'll concede the point. I do remember his incorrect claims though.

Former intel chief: WH worried over re-elect 'narrative' - CNNPolitics.com
 
Stop it, you assholes, stop it!!!!! The election is over! Quit ****ing with our emotions just to make a buck!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...344f3a-c5f7-11e6-acda-59924caa2450_story.html



I suspect an electoral college revolt would be worse than a Trump presidency.


Go. To. Hell.





Maybe if there was such a revolt at least twice in the past, for the reasons the possibility was granted, it might work out better. But there's now way that the first use of the possibility in 2016 wouldn't be disaster. Economically, Domestically, etc.

We need to buckle in such that we can still bend over and kiss our *** goodbye, if necessary.
 
There wouldn't be a reason to report on it a all if a lot of loud people had just accepted that the election was over a while ago.

But they didn't. And they made the Electoral College vote newsworthy in ways it never has been in modern times.

So, you're going to have to take it up mostly with the whiners who couldn't accept the results of a free and fair election.

Hard to fight emotion with common sense. ;)
 
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