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Which media outlet is the LEAST biased?

Cardinal said:
This infographic I saw batting around the interwebs sums up my own feelings about good and bad sources of information pretty well:

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I don't mind a little bias. As long as it doesn't interfere with the quality of the journalism, then it's fine. In fact, I'd say that if you hold purely to centrist news sites then you're creating an entirely separate bubble that discounts reasonable right and left viewpoints. But one thing that is consistent is that when that bias crosses a certain line the quality will always fall off a cliff.

Everything in the "complex" venn diagram is essentially what I've programmed into my news feeds.
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I hope you did not pay money for this chart.
 
News media is is run by people. Of all the cable/network TV news FOX is the only ones not losing money. Newspapers need billionaires like Carlos Slim and Jeff Baios to keep them afloat.

FOX is doing ok because although everyone is biased they make an honest effort to represent both sides.

Biased sources like Infowars & Rush are prospering because they are honest about their bias.
 
mpg said:
It's possible to be biased without being biased 100% of the time. You don't even have to be biased most of the time.
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I guarantee you that the vast majority of people who call NPR don't ever listen to it because it bores them. And marketplace morning is boring. The most conservative person I have ever known listened to NPR constantly and was quite keen on their coverage. He was just smart enough not to believe whoever first decided NPR was liberal (great minds think?). I don't even know where that talking point came from but it's a joke.
 
Casca XV said:
I hope you did not pay money for this chart.
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Casca XV said:
The Brazille thing is mild compared to most of the CNN dishonest bias. Within 5 years CNN will be a podcast run by a 1/2 dozen people, if they exist at all. I doubt Meagan will be happy with that. She is flirting with CNN because her days are numbered at FOX.
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The burden of proof isn't on you so you aren't required to provide evidence to back up your point, but I hope you don't think that you have provided evidence.
 
The BBC - I have found it has the most impartial stories.
 
CriticalThought said:
Since we appear to have reached an era where nobody trusts the media, I am curious if it is even possible for the left and right to agree on what media outlet may be the least biased.

It would be beneficial to know since so many threads start out with posters immediately dismissing the topic based only on the source provided. Maybe we could have some better discussions if we knew which media source would elicit the least suspicion of bias.
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I have a slightly different approach. Apparently, the actual truth can not be known, so the best we can do is to triangulate "the most likely truth" from a broad source of media, info, propaganda, and news. Consume as many and as BROAD a selection as possible, but trust NONE of them. Consider them all partisan, and be very careful of the ones that appeal to your confirmation bias. As a hard core righty, I do not limit myself to Rush, Hannity, Savage, etc, I also watch Rachael Maddow, and surf sites like Huffpo and Salon. I absolutely love my am radio shows, as well as FBN and FNC shows like Lou Dobbs, Justice Jeanine, Hannity, etc, but Don't trust any of them. I have learned how to fact check what I form my opinions on, and I do not rely on Snopes or Politifact. I use them, but am not limited to them.

Which source has the least amount of bias? They are all biased! A fantastic source like Drudge does not write their articles, but how the article headlines are assembled can be a cleverly biased. My answer? Triangulate the most likely truth from as many sources and broad a selection as possible, and trust none.
 
Any media outlet that takes advertiser dollars is inherently biased.
 
EvMetro said:
I have a slightly different approach. Apparently, the actual truth can not be known, so the best we can do is to triangulate "the most likely truth" from a broad source of media, info, propaganda, and news. Consume as many and as BROAD a selection as possible, but trust NONE of them. Consider them all partisan, and be very careful of the ones that appeal to your confirmation bias. As a hard core righty, I do not limit myself to Rush, Hannity, Savage, etc, I also watch Rachael Maddow, and surf sites like Huffpo and Salon. I absolutely love my am radio shows, as well as FBN and FNC shows like Lou Dobbs, Justice Jeanine, Hannity, etc, but Don't trust any of them. I have learned how to fact check what I form my opinions on, and I do not rely on Snopes or Politifact. I use them, but am not limited to them.

Which source has the least amount of bias? They are all biased! A fantastic source like Drudge does not write their articles, but how the article headlines are assembled can be a cleverly biased. My answer? Triangulate the most likely truth from as many sources and broad a selection as possible, and trust none.
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I really try to listen to right wing radio and TV but I get so pissed at the slant, mischaracterization, and omitting that I can't really stand it. I have started to feel that way about CNN and other left wing outlets. It seems like all modern news media is designed to sell one message, "this is why you should be pissed at so and so." You research it a bit more on what those actually say and do and you see it is much more nuanced. The media is counting on us all being cognitive misers and not having the time or energy to look into what claims are being made. They aren't wrong.
 
CriticalThought said:
I really try to listen to right wing radio and TV but I get so pissed at the slant, mischaracterization, and omitting that I can't really stand it. I have started to feel that way about CNN and other left wing outlets. It seems like all modern news media is designed to sell one message, "this is why you should be pissed at so and so." You research it a bit more on what those actually say and do and you see it is much more nuanced. The media is counting on us all being cognitive misers and not having the time or energy to look into what claims are being made. They aren't wrong.
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I actually DVR record everything during the day, and then fast scan it when I get home. I can go through 12 hours of news programs in about an hour with my remote control. Some of the biggest news finds that I get are based on what is omitted by each side. Both sides will have their own slant on common news, but there is usually something omitted by each side as well. Once you isolate what each side omits, you can see what needs deeper investigation. I have gotten past getting pissed off at the news programs, just don't take them very seriously anymore.

I dream of a non biased news source, but I know it will never happen.
 
EvMetro said:
I actually DVR record everything during the day, and then fast scan it when I get home. I can go through 12 hours of news programs in about an hour with my remote control. Some of the biggest news finds that I get are based on what is omitted by each side. Both sides will have their own slant on common news, but there is usually something omitted by each side as well. Once you isolate what each side omits, you can see what needs deeper investigation. I have gotten past getting pissed off at the news programs, just don't take them very seriously anymore.


I dream of a non biased news source, but I know it will never happen.
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Do you notice that the common omitted factor is usually related to Cui Bono? The person who is usually implicated for all the blame often has little to nothing to do with it or there is a completely different agenda at play than the one espoused by the news.


Trump is astonishing. The liberal media gravitates to his tweets like flies to honey. Trump could kill a man in cold blood on live TV and I think what would dominate the left wing news cycle is whatever off color tweet he made the next day. He understands that lefties LIKE to be self righteously offended. He is giving them what they want so that they won't give him trouble for what he actually does. Conservative media then just covers the overreaction of the liberal media and uses it as self evident proof that the left are full of themselves and then they do just as little to critically evaluate Trump or his agenda. Currently, Trump appears to be trying to benefit a particular upper class of Americans, which is just different from the particular upper class of Americans that Clinton would have benefitted had she won. The media seems bent on promoting divisions among the vast majority of Americans below a certain line of wealth while these super wealthy individuals are establishing policies that will ultimately benefit themselves.


That is what I see in news media today. We are given a narrative that suits our partisan views and directs our ire, while the real players find ever new creative ways to get us to support policies that enrich them.
 
Grand Mal said:
Yeah, right, like anyone needs to know what 'Breitbart' has to say about bias in a news source.
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Did you read the article, or just swoop in to shoot the messenger?
 
apdst said:
Did you read the article, or just swoop in to shoot the messenger?
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Did you read my post?
Why would anyone want to know what Breitbart says about bias in another news medium? That's exactly like reading Mother Jones on bias in political commentary.
Just for your education, I don't click on Media Matters links either.
 
Grand Mal said:
Did you read my post?
Why would anyone want to know what Breitbart says about bias in another news medium? That's exactly like reading Mother Jones on bias in political commentary.
Just for your education, I don't click on Media Matters links either.
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Ah! The latter. Just what I thought. :lamo
 
CriticalThought said:
Since we appear to have reached an era where nobody trusts the media, I am curious if it is even possible for the left and right to agree on what media outlet may be the least biased.

It would be beneficial to know since so many threads start out with posters immediately dismissing the topic based only on the source provided. Maybe we could have some better discussions if we knew which media source would elicit the least suspicion of bias.
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Least biased I have seen, is actually al jazeera. They have a tendency to report news, and sugar coat nothing, atleast the version we got in afghanistan was that way.

Sadly though it is bad when russiatimes is a source of news in the west, but sadly they seem to report more actual news than most western orgs too, it seems the rest of the world is reporting news, while our news agencies are reporting spin and political talking points.
 
apdst said:
Ah! The latter. Just what I thought. :lamo
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You didn't think it, I flat-out said it.
Looks like nobody else here thinks it's worth the effort to open a Breitbart link on the subject, either. But don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. Try 'Infowars' next time, maybe that'll work better for you.
 
[QUOTE
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.brei... that has their Alt-Right blinders on. :lol:
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CriticalThought said:
Do you notice that the common omitted factor is usually related to Cui Bono? The person who is usually implicated for all the blame often has little to nothing to do with it or there is a completely different agenda at play than the one espoused by the news.


Trump is astonishing. The liberal media gravitates to his tweets like flies to honey. Trump could kill a man in cold blood on live TV and I think what would dominate the left wing news cycle is whatever off color tweet he made the next day. He understands that lefties LIKE to be self righteously offended. He is giving them what they want so that they won't give him trouble for what he actually does. Conservative media then just covers the overreaction of the liberal media and uses it as self evident proof that the left are full of themselves and then they do just as little to critically evaluate Trump or his agenda. Currently, Trump appears to be trying to benefit a particular upper class of Americans, which is just different from the particular upper class of Americans that Clinton would have benefitted had she won. The media seems bent on promoting divisions among the vast majority of Americans below a certain line of wealth while these super wealthy individuals are establishing policies that will ultimately benefit themselves.


That is what I see in news media today. We are given a narrative that suits our partisan views and directs our ire, while the real players find ever new creative ways to get us to support policies that enrich them.
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I still say about the only objective coverage on Trump I have heard is the Ben Shapiro podcast. He is conservative but is also one of the #NeverTrump people. He actually covers policies and cabinet picks and talks about the reason why he likes or dislikes them. As long as you are generally informed about what he is talking about you can pretty much pick out his conservative views and make your own judgements.

I still say the problem isn't with news being biased, it is the ridiculous notion that there is an unbiased source and the sources that try to say they are unbiased.
 
shrubnose said:
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I see Breitbart as one of the most biased.

Everything that Breitbart spews is tilted towards the Alt-Right.

Anyone who doesn't see that has their Alt-Right blinders on.

:lol:
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I agree, they are righty biased. I am a righty, so I thoroughly enjoy their righty biased reporting. I don't trust any media, but I use every bit of it to triangulate the most likely truth. I enjoy the righty bias of Brietbart just as much I enjoy the lefty bias of HuffPo and Dailykos. If I were to dismiss the lefty biased media sources just because they are lefty biased, I would be imposing ignorance upon myself. When people limit their consumption of media to stuff they want to hear, they impose ignorance upon themselves. Media bias is a given, that is just how they are. It is up to us, the media consumers, to ensure that we consume a broad enough menu of opposing types of media bias to form a well informed opinion.
 
CriticalThought said:
Since we appear to have reached an era where nobody trusts the media, I am curious if it is even possible for the left and right to agree on what media outlet may be the least biased.

It would be beneficial to know since so many threads start out with posters immediately dismissing the topic based only on the source provided. Maybe we could have some better discussions if we knew which media source would elicit the least suspicion of bias.
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There is no perfectly unbiased media.
 
criticalthought said:
since we appear to have reached an era where nobody trusts the media, i am curious if it is even possible for the left and right to agree on what media outlet may be the least biased.

It would be beneficial to know since so many threads start out with posters immediately dismissing the topic based only on the source provided. Maybe we could have some better discussions if we knew which media source would elicit the least suspicion of bias.
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C-Span.
 
Read/Listen to a variety of sources. Compare and contrast the points covered in the reports. Do your best to ignore the headlines and read the source material upon which the stories are based. Then do you own analysis. I feel that's the only way to compensate, even in part, for the bias that exists in all our media outlets. The outlets are made up of people - and we are all a biased bunch!
 
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