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Americans want more media, not less: poll

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This isn't totally what you think, by the title.

"Americans want more media, not less: poll
The nation also emulates Donald Trump, master of information"


Here’s what they found: 81 percent of American appreciate “lots of information” and access to it while 80 percent say it’s easy for them to determine which information is “trustworthy.” Another 79 percent say the avalanche of information makes them feel like they have more control of their lives, 77 percent say they enjoy having so much information at their fingertips while 67 percent say that having more information at their disposal actually helps simplify things.
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“One might understand this best in terms of John Boyd’s famous OODA Loop. Used by military tacticians, the Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act loop describes the cycle in which opponents operate during a fight. Whoever can cycle more quickly gains the initiative and controls the fight. Whoever cycles more slowly remains off-balance, constantly having to re-observe and re-orient to circumstances dictated by the enemy,” he continues.
“The media cycles more slowly. Trump retains initiative by constantly feeding their hysteria and confusion with a steady diet of controversial tweets. Each new tweet grabs their attention and they restart the process. Like clockwork, every 24 to 48 hours, just as the hysteria is winding down, Trump releases a new comment to spool the media back up. And all the while Trump is moving on,” the officer says. “With their heads spinning, Trump’s opponents cannot see what they themselves are doing. The media cannot avoid talking about Trump all of the time, and each tweet drives a wedge between them and the American people.”


The late John Boyd, incidentally, was an Air Force colonel, fighter pilot and acclaimed military strategist who developed and perfected his OODA Loop concept from 1976 to 1995.
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Americans want more media, not less: poll - Washington Times


I think this is correct. I am sure there will be many that think this article is totally off. Please keep thinking that.
 
Sure, everyone thinks they're smart enough to filter the noise. But that being said, even for those that are bad at it, more information is likely to contain good information than less information, one would think.

I know I would rather have a single fact buried in a thousand outright lies than a small stack of nothing but half-truths and spin.
 
Their will be as much media a consumers want, it's called the free market.. Every niche will be filled..

Some will grow while others go bust..
 
NonoBadDog said:
This isn't totally what you think, by the title.

"Americans want more media, not less: poll
The nation also emulates Donald Trump, master of information"





Americans want more media, not less: poll - Washington Times


I think this is correct. I am sure there will be many that think this article is totally off. Please keep thinking that.
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What a brilliant concept.

And one, looking back on it now, you are right, I am quite certain that Trump did use, is still using. Used it masterfully, keeping the DNC and the media constantly off balance, plus got so much free media/exposure, kept people waiting for the other shoe to drop everyday, hanging on every and the next "wow, did you hear what Trump..." thing he did. So he is using, taking advantage of the media, and social media better than the previously supposed masters, ha ha ha, too funny.

What is more, the media has exposed themselves as being paid off colluding refs... so now few trust them much at all. Has forced many into alternate news seeking. MSM was already dying, but now they have ODed on themselves, mainlining their corrupt polls and collusion, snorting the kool-ade en mass, suicidally...metaphorically speaking.

This should open up some innovative ideas on proper news conveyance... possibly a reversion to the older, two source verification style...though I doubt it with the news cycling so fast there isn't time, none of these organizations have the wherewithal, the strong will that would be needed not to be worried about being scooped just to get the story right.

Seems to me there is a niche that needs filled by folks that hold off until the evidence is actually reasonably accurately interpret-able. The respected gold standard, which we do not have anywhere, or even close, at this time.

Also loved how Trump put out the youtube message early on, signalling Congress, and everyone else, if you don't wanna do it and I [Trump] feel the American people will be behind me on it... I will go around all y'all, straight to the people, on youtube.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
What a brilliant concept.

And one, looking back on it now, you are right, I am quite certain that Trump did use, is still using. Used it masterfully, keeping the DNC and the media constantly off balance, plus got so much free media/exposure, kept people waiting for the other shoe to drop everyday, hanging on every and the next "wow, did you hear what Trump..." thing he did. So he is using, taking advantage of the media, and social media better than the previously supposed masters, ha ha ha, too funny.

What is more, the media has exposed themselves as being paid off colluding refs... so now few trust them much at all. Has forced many into alternate news seeking. MSM was already dying, but now they have ODed on themselves, mainlining their corrupt polls and collusion, snorting the kool-ade en mass, suicidally...metaphorically speaking.

This should open up some innovative ideas on proper news conveyance... possibly a reversion to the older, two source verification style...though I doubt it with the news cycling so fast there isn't time, none of these organizations have the wherewithal, the strong will that would be needed not to be worried about being scooped just to get the story right.

Seems to me there is a niche that needs filled by folks that hold off until the evidence is actually reasonably accurately interpret-able. The respected gold standard, which we do not have anywhere, or even close, at this time.

Also loved how Trump put out the youtube message early on, signalling Congress, and everyone else, if you don't wanna do it and I [Trump] feel the American people will be behind me on it... I will go around all y'all, straight to the people, on youtube.
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I have had people try this tactic with me in the work place. One person will try to keep the information changing while pushing a cause or grievance. The only way to stop it is to stop the information input, filter the information for integrity and importance, then try to reconstruct the situation. The media can't do this. They don't think they have the time. Trump posts a tweet. WaPo notices the tweet and puts three reporters on it to beat the competition. I wouldn't be surprised if there were over 100 reporters throughout the media in the US that just cover Trump's twitter account.
 
Express yourself!

Many people now also like Social Media.
 
People are terribly happy being misinformed. Film at 12.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I have had people try this tactic with me in the work place. One person will try to keep the information changing while pushing a cause or grievance. The only way to stop it is to stop the information input, filter the information for integrity and importance, then try to reconstruct the situation. The media can't do this. They don't think they have the time. Trump posts a tweet. WaPo notices the tweet and puts three reporters on it to beat the competition. I wouldn't be surprised if there were over 100 reporters throughout the media in the US that just cover Trump's twitter account.
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I agree.

Problem is that we now have no true and honest party of opposition. The Democrats are really in such tatters now, their reputation has tanked, the media is not to be trusted, academia is part of the problem pushing the PC crap that we have all come to odiously hate... I feel Trump will do the right things but we do need to keep our eyes on the prize, the real deal. So I guess it will be up to us to police ourselves for a while. As you well put it, we will need "to stop the information input, filter the information for integrity and importance, then try to reconstruct the situation" to constantly monitor to make sure we don't get off track, I suppose.

One can usually rely on the other party to do that, and they will, its just that they are so discredited at this point, who will listen?
 
Orly? said:
Their will be as much media a consumers want, it's called the free market.. Every niche will be filled..

Some will grow while others go bust..
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This exploding information capture, analysis and presentation will create millions of jobs for years to come. They will probably not go to the proverbial worker in the rust belt looking for work.
 
Gonzo Rodeo said:
Sure, everyone thinks they're smart enough to filter the noise. But that being said, even for those that are bad at it, more information is likely to contain good information than less information, one would think.

I know I would rather have a single fact buried in a thousand outright lies than a small stack of nothing but half-truths and spin.
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Its interesting to look at ancient times when the information was kept only by the few, those in power, those who could read and had access to those written words, those who knew Latin or Greek. Yes, those who had access to information were very limited... and now, just the opposite when we are all hit by a blizzard of new information each and every day.

Finding the true gold nuggets of information is like panning for real gold, so much sand and grit, so little gold. But I agree, more information, even if the truth is buried deep, is better than no information, or information for the very few.
 
Most Americans voted for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

Thusly, most Americans are politically clueless.
 
DA60 said:
Most Americans voted for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

Thusly, most Americans are politically clueless.
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Or justly pragmatic. Going for the lesser of two evils in their own terms. Why throw that opportunitiy away stupidly on a third party, or less, candidate that could only be laughed at even more than the two majors?

I would suggest those who voted for other than Trump, who was not my first choice at all, were the clueless ones.
 
joG said:
This exploding information capture, analysis and presentation will create millions of jobs for years to come. They will probably not go to the proverbial worker in the rust belt looking for work.
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No, they will go to whoever does the best job..
 
The market is ripe for a new source that abhors bias, just presents factual information as it occurs, and amends those facts without injecting politics, personal views, biases or any other information by the hosts or reporters. What would America do with such a news source that would allow people to make up their own minds about what is occurring. :shock:
 
NonoBadDog said:
I have had people try this tactic with me in the work place. One person will try to keep the information changing while pushing a cause or grievance. The only way to stop it is to stop the information input, filter the information for integrity and importance, then try to reconstruct the situation. The media can't do this. They don't think they have the time. Trump posts a tweet. WaPo notices the tweet and puts three reporters on it to beat the competition. I wouldn't be surprised if there were over 100 reporters throughout the media in the US that just cover Trump's twitter account.
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It is really brilliant on Trump's part. Instead of answering the media's questions, he has them chasing his posts. They spend their time debating them while he simply goes on about his business. The media has become his enemy so he simply goes around them. Smart and, of course, very entertaining.
 
fmw said:
It is really brilliant on Trump's part. Instead of answering the media's questions, he has them chasing his posts. They spend their time debating them while he simply goes on about his business. The media has become his enemy so he simply goes around them. Smart and, of course, very entertaining.
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It will desensitize people to the press hollering about Trump. That isn't a good thing. They are supposed to be a watchdog. They are reducing themselves to a barking yap dog in the eyes of the public, crying wolf every time Trump tweets.
 
NonoBadDog said:
It will desensitize people to the press hollering about Trump. That isn't a good thing. They are supposed to be a watchdog. They are reducing themselves to a barking yap dog in the eyes of the public, crying wolf every time Trump tweets.
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True but still entertaining. They haven't been a watchdog for a long, long time. Perhaps they will begin to take their mission more seriously.
 
fmw said:
True but still entertaining. They haven't been a watchdog for a long, long time. Perhaps they will begin to take their mission more seriously.
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They will just holler louder. They think they have to tune "the message" so that the public will buy off on it. When I drive by a feed lot for sheep I can tell, with my eyes closed, that it is a feed lot for sheep. It smells like sheep ****.
 
Orly? said:
Their will be as much media a consumers want, it's called the free market.. Every niche will be filled..

Some will grow while others go bust..
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A niche to confirm the biases and beliefs of every human on earth. An infinite menu of choices is irrelevant when a statistically irrelevant number of those choices hold to any journalistic standards.
 
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