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American journalism is collapsing before our eyes

SailaWay said:
IQ's and logic and abilities are INBRED not learned...
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coldjoint said:
Who tells you what public opinion is? The MSM?
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Actually, my opinion on this was not formed by the MSM. It was formed by Trump's fat mouth, and the very cringeworthy things he keeps saying.
 
danarhea said:
Actually, my opinion on this was not formed by the MSM. It was formed by Trump's fat mouth, and the very cringeworthy things he keeps saying.
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I hope you remember exactly what he said and what context it was in. You won't get either on the MSM.
 
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coldjoint said:
I hope you remember exactly what he said and what context it was in. You won't get either on the MSM.
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So, when Trump says that he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue in broad daylight and not lose any supporters, it means something else to you?
 
danarhea said:
So, when Trump says that he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue in broad daylight and not lose any supporters, it means something else to you?
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It means he is that sure of his support. Can't take a joke, or what?
 
Grand Mal said:
Liberals run the news media, liberals run the universities, liberals run the entertainment industry, liberals this and liberals that.
Typical right whinge whining. Liberals do, and conservatives complain about what liberals do. Same as it ever was...
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Liberals don't "run" anything. Liberals are way too stupid to "run" anything.

No, what liberals are is loud, and personally invested in the progressive agenda.

You saw those two glorified dental technicians the other day, outing themselves because Ivanka Trump bought a piece of jewelry from their company.

That's what we're dealing with - individuals. Extremely misguided and dangerous individuals who feel it's their business to disrespect their customers as well as their paymasters.

But this is all well known by now, it's why the progressives are being ejected and Donald Trump will be our next president.
 
I'm afraid Michael Goodwin is a bit of a flawed messenger.

Mike Pence is the perfect yin to Donald Trump’s yang | New York Post

Pence, by contrast, was precise and disciplined, delivering his remarks with the skill of a professional pol in the best sense of the word. With his record and reputation for integrity, he adds credibility to Trump’s wild disrupter instincts.
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Loretta Lynch falls under the Clintons’ corrupting influence | New York Post
Who believes she was “pleased” to be interviewed by the FBI in a criminal investigation that could upend her life?

But that’s the way the Clintons roll.

Wherever they go, whatever they do, ethics are trashed and suspicions of criminal conduct follow them like night follows day.

It’s who they are and it’s self-delusional to believe another stint in the White House would make the Clintons better people.
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Attacks against Trump backfire on the conspiracy of dunces | New York Post
Are President Obama, Hillary Clinton and violent leftists in cahoots to elect Donald Trump? Or are they just idiots?

The evidence is overwhelming that they all belong to a conspiracy — either of secret GOP sympathizers or of dunces. Those are the only options after Democrats took turns denouncing Trump in ways that actually bolstered the potency of his arguments.
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Meet the Democratic Liars Club | New York Post
The old warning to beware of lies, damned lies and statistics deserves an update. Nowadays, we must also beware of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Bill de Blasio.

The unholy trinity comprises the leaders of the Democratic Liars Club. Whether born or convicted, the president of the United States, his would-be successor and the mayor of New York are, to borrow a phrase, “people of the lie.”

This is not to accuse them of being merely imperfect humans. It is to say they are chronically dishonest and concoct such significant lies that they deserve zero public trust.
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Moderator's Warning:
There's too much sniping and too many off-topic digressions in this thread. Please stick to the subject of the collapse of American journalism. If you want to indulge in electoral points scoring go elsewhere. God knows you have plenty of other threads to choose from.
 
While it is clear American media and journalism is qualitatively on the decline, it is also clear the asininity of the view-point OP attempted to attack it from.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The same people who voted for Obama and Clinton are now voting for Trump? Sounds about right. All three are Democrats, after all.
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Some are. Some are still going to vote for Clinton.
 
Grim17 said:
That might serve as a brilliant dodge to some, but I find it totally lame.
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I am sure that you do Grim, but being that some here like to point that out time and time again I find it very relevant.
 
Johnson said:
Innate.
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Yes, innate, not inbred, but the jury is still out as to how much of what we call "intelligence" is genetic and how much is learned. As for logic, that is learned, not innate.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, innate, not inbred, but the jury is still out as to how much of what we call "intelligence" is genetic and how much is learned. As for logic, that is learned, not innate.
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No argument here, I was just attempting to assist another poster I'm his word selection.
 
Grim17 said:
Michael Goodwin is a man who spent 10 years as a reporter for the NY Times, was Executive Editor of the NY Daily News and won a Pulitzer Prize as Editorial Page Editor for their successful campaign to rescue the legendary Apollo Theatre from mismanagement.


When a man with that background and experience calls the MSM out for it's blatant bias and disreguard for fairness, it means something and is difficult for anyone to ignore.





American journalism is collapsing before our eyes | New York Post

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It died long ago. I think one of the worst things was Clinton getting rid of the rule of one station/area. Before that, journalistic integrity was still dying, but removing that restriction allowed the oligarchy of news ownership we see now. Before it was one broadcast station/area, now we allowed media cross-ownership and everything got snapped up such that essentially all news organizations are owned by like 3 folk.

The Telecommunications Act of 1996 should be reversed, but with all the entanglement of broadcast channels and owners, it would be a significant challenge to do so. Still, if we were interested in preserving some amount of proper competition and information presentation, it would be necessary.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, innate, not inbred, but the jury is still out as to how much of what we call "intelligence" is genetic and how much is learned. As for logic, that is learned, not innate.
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LOGIC is NOT LEARNED... IQ's are NOT LEARNED.... ABILITIES are NOT LEARNED

Logical thinking ability is an ability and NOT LEARNED...

abilities cannot change.... to prove this

Sit a Lizard and a human in a college classroom for 500 years...IF learning is different then there are different inbred abilities that makes one do as they do.. Logical thinking ability figures out good from bad.. true from false and value from non value.. they predict correctly and are the prophets...... a phophet cannot LEARN to be a Prophet its inbred or INNATE
 
American Journalism died when it did not question the Bush 2 Iraq war.... one could argue that it actually started to die when Rupert Murdoch started Fox News... but hey.
 
It all changed when big money bought out the media....when the media gets its money with MORE people they will get their money from pushing globalism... and the MORE people are the unwise and they will push for that also.... and with that the world falls back....

ONE NATION AT A TIME...... Nationalism stops all this harm and helps to learn with comparison's of different nations and states systems
 
SailaWay said:
LOGIC is NOT LEARNED... IQ's are NOT LEARNED.... ABILITIES are NOT LEARNED

Logical thinking ability is an ability and NOT LEARNED...

abilities cannot change.... to prove this

Sit a Lizard and a human in a college classroom for 500 years...IF learning is different then there are different inbred abilities that makes one do as they do.. Logical thinking ability figures out good from bad.. true from false and value from non value.. they predict correctly and are the prophets...... a phophet cannot LEARN to be a Prophet its inbred or INNATE
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Saying it in all caps doesn't make it so.
Of course, you can't teach a lizard logic.
You can teach a human being logic.
but, it does have to be taught.
 
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