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Dr. Drew's Bombshell: 'Gravely Concerned' About Hillary's Health

Mycroft said:
I listened to the Doctor's interview. I found it very interesting. He was very clear that without examining Clinton himself, he wouldn't attempt to diagnose her medical condition. His main concern, though, was about the treatment her doctor said Clinton was receiving. It seems, in his opinion, that the medications she is receiving are not appropriate for her stated conditions...that they are medications that were commonly used decades ago but that there are other modern and more effective medications commonly used nowadays. In fact, he said that her medications could be responsible for the behavior she exhibits that has people so concerned about her.

One medication he mentioned was Coumadin. He said this particular drug isn't used anymore. I don't know about that. Either he's wrong or the University of Colorado Hospital is wrong. I say this because I spent 3 weeks there last year and they intended to place me on that very drug to prevent blood clotting in connection to my heart ailment. I ended up not being prescribed that drug because of complications, but that was their intention. I find it hard to believe that UCH...who are the premier cardiac care specialists in Colorado...would use a drug that is obsolete.

Now...I don't presume to say that Dr. Drew doesn't know what the hell he is talking about...but let's just say I have my doubts about what he said.
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I read in articles that warfarin (aka coumadin) is one of the most used blood thinners in the US.
 
washunut said:
The sad truth is that in this campaign both sides have lied to us so many times we don't know what to believe.

While anyone in such a high stress job as the president could fall ill, we should know if someone has something in their medical past that makes it more likely. This issue is materially more important than someone's tax returns. Who cares what % of income a candidate pays in taxes. If he/she is like most Americans, it would be the lowest amount allowed by law.
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That is just nonsense about the tax returns. It is not about how much he paid. It is about how he made his money and where he is putting it.
 
j-mac said:
The Doctor, (And he is an actual Doctor) went as far on Hannity, to take listeners back to when she was wearing the "prisim glasses" and suggested brain damage....Now, I know all the jokes that could arise from this issue, but seriously, do we really want to consider a person that has problems with clots, that could have her drop dead instantly, and more to the point, possibly brain damaged due to her fall, and put her in charge of this country?

I think not.
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I don't know. There may be legal problems releasing this kind of information without the patient's consent. Let me consult Judge Judy on this. :mrgreen:
 
iguanaman said:
That is just nonsense about the tax returns. It is not about how much he paid. It is about how he made his money and where he is putting it.
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He's probably putting it in Russian real estate. LOL.
 
j-mac said:
The Doctor, (And he is an actual Doctor) went as far on Hannity, to take listeners back to when she was wearing the "prisim glasses" and suggested brain damage....Now, I know all the jokes that could arise from this issue, but seriously, do we really want to consider a person that has problems with clots, that could have her drop dead instantly, and more to the point, possibly brain damaged due to her fall, and put her in charge of this country?

I think not.
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Dr. Drew is a trump surrogate. So of course what comes out of his mouth is suspect.
 
j-mac said:
The Doctor, (And he is an actual Doctor) went as far on Hannity, to take listeners back to when she was wearing the "prisim glasses" and suggested brain damage....Now, I know all the jokes that could arise from this issue, but seriously, do we really want to consider a person that has problems with clots, that could have her drop dead instantly, and more to the point, possibly brain damaged due to her fall, and put her in charge of this country?

I think not.
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Jesus Christ this election cycle is unbelievable.
 
Helix said:
what does Dr. Oz say? i trust him more, because he is on the cover of Woman's World every week telling me how i can lose 14 points a day eating petrified white dog turds soaked in zucchini snot.
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Does Dr. Oz make off the cuff pronouncements about the health issues of major politicians he never even spoke to in a hallway?

Perhaps more to the point is what didn't Dr. Oz say.... :peace
 
I think Mrs Clinton is perfectly OK mentally. Now should not the good Dr Drew turn his attention to the people who intend to vote for her ..............
 
notquiteright said:
Does Dr. Oz make off the cuff pronouncements about the health issues of major politicians he never even spoke to in a hallway?

Perhaps more to the point is what didn't Dr. Oz say.... :peace
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he's too busy promoting nonsense diets on the cover of Woman's World and other magazines that i wouldn't use to wrap fish.

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LOSE 18 POUNDS IN 14 DAYS! JUST SWITCH FROM OJ TO IPECAC, WOOHOO!
 
rocket88 said:
He has not examined Clinton, and is therefore unable to give a diagnosis
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He didn't diagnose her.




Rico Suave said:
Dr drew seems a little confused..

HLN's Dr. Drew Apologizes For Raising "Unsubstantiated" Report That "Brain Injury" Caused Clinton's Debate Delay
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What you provided has nothing to do with this topic.




Jane said:
Granted, I don't keep up on all the latest crackpots, but I don't believe I've ever heard an actual M.D. publicly diagnose someone he's never even met before. I thought that was the ultimate no-no when being asked supposedly hypothetical questions like this.
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He didn't diagnose her.




danarhea said:
Hillary Clinton 2016: Health ‘excellent,’ doctor says - POLITICO

Next fake issue, please. LOL.
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There is no fake issue here.

And fyi, the information in your link is part of the information Dr. Drew relied on. iLOL
 
j-mac said:
The willful dismissal of a serious subject, exclusively because you want to protect such a flawed status quo candidate like the criminal Hillary only serves to show that you have not a candle to hold up to this man's education, let alone accomplishments....Then again, y'all are on an internet message board, so there ya go....
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Fishking said:
You're right. He's not definitively saying anything or even diagnosing her. He has simply analyzed what medicines she's on, and certain treatments she's received, as well as correlating that with physical issues she has had and making some basic assessments.
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Exactly.




Mycroft said:
I listened to the Doctor's interview. I found it very interesting. He was very clear that without examining Clinton himself, he wouldn't attempt to diagnose her medical condition.
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Which should make it clear that those making such a claim are not paying attention to what was actually said.
 
Redress said:
Dr. Drew examined Clinton when? Do we really want to give any credence to a person who is offering a medical opinion one some one he has never even ****ing examined? Some one who actually has examined Clinton says her health is fine. Now, with Trump, his letter from the doctor is plagued with problems...https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/im-a-doctor-these-are-the-things-i-find-concerning-with-trumps-medical-letter/

Edit: since some will miss this, the part about Trump was added to show how easy it is to raise questions about some one's health without actually knowing anything about their health...
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Who claimed an examination happened?
Offering a medical opinion? Wut?


Redress said:
How about those of us dismissing the subject because he has never ****ing examined Clinton so has no way to make any claim about the state of her health?
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Apparently those of you dismissing do not know what was actually said.


Redress said:
Just for the record, which you would know if you had actually read your own source, he does not have access to Clinton's medical records, only what is publicly available...ie a two page letter from her doctor.
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You seem to be forgetting he knows she was wearing the fresnel lens in her eye glasses and what that signifies.


So how about limiting your comments to what he actually said?


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Excon said:
Apparently those of you dismissing do not know what was actually said.



So how about limiting your comments to what he actually said?
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Okay. Any M.D. who has never met a person and makes a claim that "her health care is bizarre" when no other M.D. has done so is beneath contempt.
 
Mr Person said:
A doctor who goes on air to publicly announce his/her patient's health records is in violation of HIPAA and likely a whole bunch of other legal/ethical rules. Doctors who know what they're doing also don't pontificate based on a letter written by another doctor, when that other doctor has access to all the actual medical records and has actually examined the patient.

If I took the OP, I'd have to take it with 2.5 metric tons of salt. And that would be disgusting, so I won't take it at all.




:inandout:
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Just add some tequila and lemon. If I were to ever watch or read anything from Dr. Drew I'd need LOTS of tequila. I suppose next Dr. Phil will weigh in on Hillary's mental state :roll:
 
j-mac said:
So, because the guy did a quirky show years ago, totally wipes out all of his education, and other positions he has held? BTW, He also currently serves as a Medical adviser on CNN....You know, Hillary's network?

So, why don't you stop trying to discredit the man, and come up with an argument other than a logical fallacy?
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no, that isn't why at all...it's because he is on there for the money and to put his mug out there

it doesn't matter if what he says is true or false the reason it is out there is to place "doubt" to make certain members of the public wonder, to possibly change a vote or two

that is like prostituting one's credentials, it is unethical which is why that other goof Dr. Oz almost had his license yanked
 
Jane said:
Okay. Any M.D. who has never met a person and makes a claim that "her health care is bizarre" when no other M.D. has done so is beneath contempt.
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Hilarious.

Not at all. He is commenting on what her Doctor and she released.
 
Anyone with functioning eyesight should be able to see there's something wrong with the woman's health.
Add to that her absence on the campaign trail that can't reasonably be attributed to a "we're winning, let the other asshole keep hanging himself" campaign strategy.
Then throw in what actual knowledgeable persons have observed/read and her campaign saying they have no intention of releasing her health records.

I'm afraid they're running out the clock on this and other things ... country be damned.
 
chromium said:
I do think the american people have full right to know what's going on with any candidate's health. That's something that has to change. We shouldn't be hoping that she's honest for the first time in her public office career. But then, i figured the people have a right to see donald trump's tax returns too, so what do i know

If up to me, no one could appear on the ballot until they've undergone full medical tests and the results made public AND their tax returns
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the full medical check up can't happen because your system is too partisan and would be subject to distortion and any number of manipulations

it really doesn't matter if they drop dead, stroke out, or lose their mind anyway, someone steps in
 
j-mac said:
The Doctor, (And he is an actual Doctor) went as far on Hannity, to take listeners back to when she was wearing the "prisim glasses" and suggested brain damage....Now, I know all the jokes that could arise from this issue, but seriously, do we really want to consider a person that has problems with clots, that could have her drop dead instantly, and more to the point, possibly brain damaged due to her fall, and put her in charge of this country?

I think not.
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The idea of giving concrete medical advice based on a (leaked?) treatment summary seems like pure bunk. As to the bolded above, I am such a person and have been treated with warfarin for decades and (so far) with very good results. There are now about 2 million patients taking warfarin in the US - are all of their doctors "quacks" for using an old (tried and true?) drug treatment?

Warfarin treatment, as opposed to the (3?) alternatives now available, has both advantages and disadvantages (see link below for much more detail). Two key warfarin advantages are cost (I pay $10 for a 90 day supply) and few (no?) known drug interaction issues. Those are very important considerations since all of the warfarin alternative drugs have known and serious interactions with many other drugs and are much more expensive.

Is there a role for warfarin anymore?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The idea of giving concrete medical advice based on a (leaked?) treatment summary seems like pure bunk.
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It's my understanding that the letter from Hillary's doctor was released by Hillary for the purpose of showing that she, in her doctor's opinion, is healthy enough to run for President. And, while one should not, in my opinion, simply take the word of any other doctor who has an opinion about someone's medical treatment, I do appreciate being further educated on treatment methods by third parties. I won't call Dr. Drew's opinion or his words in this situation "pure bunk".

As to the bolded above, I am such a person and have been treated with warfarin for decades and (so far) with very good results. There are now about 2 million patients taking warfarin in the US - are all of their doctors "quacks" for using an old (tried and true?) drug treatment?

Warfarin treatment, as opposed to the (3?) alternatives now available, has both advantages and disadvantages (see link below for much more detail). Two key warfarin advantages are cost (I pay $10 for a 90 day supply) and few (no?) known drug interaction issues. Those are very important considerations since all of the warfarin alternative drugs have known and serious interactions with many other drugs and are much more expensive.

Is there a role for warfarin anymore?
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My having said the above notwithstanding, I agree with you about the Warfarin.

The lesson here is that everyone's statements and declarations should never be taken as truth. Always be skeptical and question what one is told. Even by doctors.
 
Excon said:
Who claimed an examination happened?
Offering a medical opinion? Wut?
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If you are offering an opinion on a person's health or health hazards, that is what we call a medical opinion.



Apparently those of you dismissing do not know what was actually said.
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Actually, I do know what he said.



You seem to be forgetting he knows she was wearing the fresnel lens in her eye glasses and what that signifies.


So how about limiting your comments to what he actually said?
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She did at one time after her concussion wear Fresnel lenses. She does not now. This is not unusual. I know what he did say, and I know what it is worth(hint: it is worth nothing). I realize you guys are kinda desperate as the election slips out of control for you all, but this stupid **** just makes you look silly and desperate.
 
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