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Khizr Khan Believes the Constitution ‘Must Always Be Subordinated to the Sharia’

tres borrachos said:
I just read the whole thing. It's a 2 page book review, or a review he wrote of someone else's words in a seminar. Where in there does Khan say that Sharia Law trumps the Constitution? Please copy that passage for me.
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Considering the nature of the thread title, the fact that it wasn't supported in the OP's post, and the nature and history of the OP himself, I was skeptical from the get go. Thank you for exposing it as a lie.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: people educated in Constitutional law disagree on that. Contra Trump, however, Kahn absolutely has the right to get up there and speak and say what he did.


So long as Trump and his fans keep punching down to attack a Gold Star family, they will keep losing. Trump is demonstrating and reinforcing all of Hillary's critiques of him, while making her look better in precisely the areas she has decided to run on (temperament, competency, etc). It's a suicidally stupid move by a small and thin-skinned man who cannot abide criticism.
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Punching up/down is a major thing in comedy as well -- your audience will rarely react positively to you for making fun of the less fortunate. Does Trump really think he's the first politician in the history of the United States to have to respond to the angry parent of a fallen soldier? No matter how right, wrong, tactful or untactful the parent's criticism, the correct response is always the same: "We thank you for your son's/daughter's ultimate sacrifice to our country." (or variations thereof)
 
TheGoverness said:
I have a feeling this is total BS.
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I knew it was BS before I read it. You think that Clinton's team wouldn't fact-check this before letting him onto the DNC stage? This reeks of Roger Stone's bull****.
 
Even if this is true, which it quite obviously is not, i don't see how it's relevant.
 
cabse5 said:
You've finally convinced me. The only thing wrong in this whole situation is Trump denigrating the gold star family. Most definitely, REPUBLICANS care how gold star families are treated.

He didn't have to agree with Mr. Kahn. Still doesn't have to agree with Mr. Khan (or the MSM). Loose lips...
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:( Many Republicans do. A plurality, it seems. But a significant minority are, apparently, also willing to subordinate that to the need to defend whatever the candidate does.

But you are absolutely correct - you don't have to agree with Mr. Kahn to avoid getting into a fight with him. Trump never had to agree with or even pretend to agree with Kahn. All he had to do was respectfully disagree and let the matter drop. It would have been a story for a day or so.

But he can't. :( He spent the day after the convention re-litigating Ted Cruz' dad being part of the JFK assassination, and a day or two ago going back into the Megyn-Kelly-Bleeding bit. :shakeshead: Gonna be a long general campaign.
 
cpwill said:
Well, it's Breitbart, so, probably.
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Breitbart just got busted for using a picture from a Cleveland Cavs victory parade and saying it was a Trump rally in Florida. Crap pseudo journalism.
 
beefheart said:
Breitbart just got busted for using a picture from a Cleveland Cavs victory parade and saying it was a Trump rally in Florida. Crap pseudo journalism.
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Where is your source?
 
cpwill said:
:( Many Republicans do. A plurality, it seems. But a significant minority are, apparently, also willing to subordinate that to the need to defend whatever the candidate does.

But you are right - you don't have to agree with Mr. Kahn to avoid getting into a fight with him. Trump never had to agree with or even pretend to agree with Kahn. All he had to do was respectfully disagree and let the matter drop. It would have been a story for a day or so.

But he can't. :( He spent the day after the convention re-litigating Ted Cruz' dad being part of the JFK assassination, and a day or two ago going back into the Megyn-Kelly-Bleeding bit. :shakeshead: Gonna be a long general campaign.
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Hey, I agree, Trump has problems handling dirty political tricks. The Megyn Kelly dust up followed the FOX NEWS dust up that any GOP candidate who wouldn't support the GOP nominee had to raise their hand...Trump was the only one to raise his hand (ironically, enough). Later on in the same nationally televised debate, Kelly literally tried to pick a fight with Trump over previous comments he'd made about Rosie O'Donnell. Then FOX NEWS and Kelly were dismayed because Trump accused them of being unfair to him (they were). FOX NEWS wasn't reporting the news they were creating the news. At whose behest?

Kelly still hasn't gotten over Trump's perceived slight. That's not Trump's fault. That's Kelly's fault. Why she isn't a credible journalist. She has issues with Trump.

This is way off topic. Instead of being penalized for being off topic, I'd be willing to participate in an IM.

Don't get a big head, cpwill. Rarely are you convincing (to me).
 
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beefheart said:
Breitbart just got busted for using a picture from a Cleveland Cavs victory parade and saying it was a Trump rally in Florida. Crap pseudo journalism.
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And it was just yesterday that DP Trump supporters - I strongly hesitate to call them 'conservatives' anymore - were pointing to that very picture as 'proof' of Trump's overwhelming support among the American people.
 
cabse5 said:
Still doesn't discount Kahn's assertion that Trump's Muslim ban on immigration is unconstitutional. Kahn's claim is false.
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Ah, so now the Kahn-bashers are changing subjects...
 
cabse5 said:
Hey, I agree, Trump has problems handling dirty political tricks. The Megyn Kelly dust up followed the FOX NEWS dust up that any GOP candidate who wouldn't support the GOP nominee had to raise their hand...Trump was the only one to raise his hand. Later, on the same nationally televised debate, Kelly literally tried to pick a fight with Trump over comments he'd made about previous comments about Rosie O'Donnell. Then FOX NEWS and Kelly was dismayed because Trump accused them of being unfair to him (they were).

Kelly still hasn't gotten over Trump's perceived slight. Why she isn't a credible journalist. She has issues with Trump.

This is way off topic. Instead of being penalized for being off topic, I'd be willing to participate in an IM.
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No worries - it's an old subject of debate.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
And it was just yesterday that DP Trump supporters - I strongly hesitate to call them 'conservatives' anymore - were pointing to that very picture as 'proof' of Trump's overwhelming support among the American people.
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Thank you.

Where was that happening?
 
Geoist said:
Ah, so now the Kahn-bashers are changing subjects...
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Never have changed the subject. I didn't realize the crux of this issue, though. It's not the lack of constitutionality of the Muslim ban, it's disrespecting families that have sacrificed for war.
 
cabse5 said:
Hey, I agree, Trump has problems handling dirty political tricks. The Megyn Kelly dust up followed the FOX NEWS dust up that any GOP candidate who wouldn't support the GOP nominee had to raise their hand...Trump was the only one to raise his hand (ironically, enough). Later on in the same nationally televised debate, Kelly literally tried to pick a fight with Trump over previous comments he'd made about Rosie O'Donnell. Then FOX NEWS and Kelly were dismayed because Trump accused them of being unfair to him (they were). FOX NEWS wasn't reporting the news they were creating the news. At whose behest?

Kelly still hasn't gotten over Trump's perceived slight. That's not Trump's fault. That's Kelly's fault. Why she isn't a credible journalist. She has issues with Trump.

This is way off topic. Instead of being penalized for being off topic, I'd be willing to participate in an IM.

Don't get a big head, cpwill. Rarely are you convincing (to me).
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If he can't handle dirty tricks during an election, how the heck is he gonna handle much dirtier tricks by other nations once he's elected?
 
roughdraft274 said:
Never met him but I'd be lying if I didn't say that he came across as an asshole anytime I'd see him on tv or in an interview. Couldn't stand him.


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Real life personas are often so different. I met Ted Kennedy once and he was an exceptionally nice man. I met Mike Huckabee a few times and wanted to punch his lights out every time. Breitbart came across as arrogant on the television, but in a private setting, he was a great man.
 
tres borrachos said:
Real life personas are often so different. I met Ted Kennedy once and he was an exceptionally nice man. I met Mike Huckabee a few times and wanted to punch his lights out every time. Breitbart came across as arrogant on the television, but in a private setting, he was a great man.
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What do you do for a living that gives you access to all these people?
 
FieldTheorist said:
I knew it was BS before I read it. You think that Clinton's team wouldn't fact-check this before letting him onto the DNC stage? This reeks of Roger Stone's bull****.
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Clinton's team probably conducted an in depth electronic vetting of Khan that would make a liberal civil libertarian cringe.

They then concluded rightfully that Khan's positive points (Gold Star parent, moslem, willing to speak, articulate, educated and identifiably upper middle class) far exceeded the negative whispers (in the past, he wrote papers that were somewhat favorable of Sharia).

In short, I don't think the sharia in a good light articles are "BS". But I do know that any argument against a Gold Star parent will be a losing argument in the end. Heck, the Democrats probably hope Trump takes the bait- again.
 
roughdraft274 said:
What do you do for a living that gives you access to all these people?
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Not through work. I live in New Hampshire. My husband and I relocated here almost 20 years ago, and it's basically a political orgy here for 6 months of the year, every 4 years. You can get access to anyone who is a candidate, especially as you do more and more volunteer work for the candidates and get known (and are deemed "safe"). I've met almost all of the Presidential candidates for the last 16 years (on both sides), well, except that disgusting clown running at the top of the GOP ticket now as I wouldn't have been caught dead anywhere near him or his minions. Met them in both large and small settings (house parties, parade marches, working at rallies, sign wavings, post-vote events, etc.). Met many big "non-candidate players" as well, like all of the news media people, press secretaries, celebrities stumping, committee chairs (never met Wasserman-Schultz, but that's no loss). It's been a lot of fun. And besides the no sales tax/no income tax/Live Free or Die thing we have going on here, it's one of the great perks of living in New Hampshire.

By the way, I met Ted Kennedy through his son Ted Junior who dated one of my friends who went to Wesleyan with him.
 
Cardinal said:
Does Trump really think he's the first politician in the history of the United States to have to respond to the angry parent of a fallen soldier? No matter how right, wrong, tactful or untactful the parent's criticism, the correct response is always the same: "We thank you for your son's/daughter's ultimate sacrifice to our country." (or variations thereof)
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Very well said.
 
tres borrachos said:
Andrew Breitbart was a nice man. I met him a few times. He has to be rolling in his grave right now knowing what kind of idiocy abounds at what he worked so hard to create.
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I'm sure he was friendly but he was just as guilty of all this ridiculous bull**** as the rest of his writers.
 
If Hillary's team vetted Khan so thoroughly, why don't they vet her just as thoroughly before she speaks? :shrug:
 
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