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The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career[W:190]

Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Despite all facts to the contrary. It must be hard posting from a different reality.

It's your partisan reality that jibes with what actually happened.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

So you think a lame apology is enough to correct the problem. A complete and unconditional retraction followed by a front page apology is what she needs to do.

I've long ago given up on the apology as a justification meme.

If you accidentally step on someone's foot, you apologize.

If you drop someone's Ming vase, you apologize.

If you walk in on someone in the shower, you apologize.

If you are a journalist and you deliberately mislead you lose your job and possibly defend a lawsuit.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

1. Dude. Even the people who produced this documentary have admitted that they edited out the answers and replaced them with several seconds of the people sitting there quietly. Even Couric has admitted it.

2. No, Couric and her team created this controversy when they deceptively edited the film in order to lie to their audience.

3. It's a good lesson learned. If you are a conservative group, always take your own photage, so you can prove what happened.

4. Because your language makes clear that your response is driven by your looking down on people you disagree with. Those right wing gun nuts are your "other", and so you mock, attack, and excuse abuse of them by fellow skeptics.

5. Yup. It's embarrassing for liberals

1. That didn't answer my question. Why should I trust the raw footage leaked to a right wing website anymore than a documentary created by a left-wing anti-gun agenda? Seems to me that we are all following the network's advice to decide for ourselves... Hmmmm.... funny how that works.

2. So their audience was right wing gun nutters? Hm, I didn't think that was their goal...

3. There's the problem right there. If you are a conservative group... Seems to me the conservative group wanted to create controversy over nothing yet they were the ones who let themselves get interviewed by Couric in the first place... Why didn't they think this was not going to happen? I bet they saw it coming but now they are playing victims instead...

4. I think you are looking at this through a political prism. Whereas, I am not. I am looking at it through a legal and perhaps entertainment perspective. Legally you don't really have a case because this is done all the time in the entertainment business. I guess after all is said and done gun owners won't be in many documentaries from here on out which would again be a win for Couric and the left in the long run... Dumb! Also just because a bunch of gun nutters are telling me something wrong is going on, that doesn't make me automatically believe it to be true! In fact, based on where this source is coming from it makes me question it all the more. This was going to be polarizing no matter what! Now it's just ten times more because the gun nutters want it to be. That's why I am calling them gun nutters because they are the ones causing people to freak out about this stupid thing.

5. I guess you don't think there is a difference between Moderate and liberals.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Of course, the question might be" What career'?

The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career – Bearing Arms


Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rather had a certain degree of deniability when his producers failed to do their due diligence and vet the so-called “Killian documents” for authenticity. It was a mistake, but still cost four people their jobs at CBS News and tarnished Rather’s lengthy and up until then, respected career.

Yahoo! News anchor and Under the Gun executive producer and narrator Katie Couric cannot off up any plausible deniability at all for her team’s decision to commit what is nothing more or less than fraud.

This project was Couric’s “baby,” and she was responsible for every aspect of the final cut of a heavily-biased documentary which now appears to contain blatant and intentional fraud designed to make the VCDL appear as if they didn’t have an answer to the interviewers questions, when they did indeed have an immediate, detailed, and rational response from three members of the group which went to so far as to cite law and Supreme Court decisions on prior restraint, pointing out the sort of “pre-crime” laws championed by gun control supporters is both Orwellian and blatantly unconstitutional.

Katie Couric’s “Gungate” was intentional, willful, and malicious fraud, and should in Couric’s immediate termination and her being treated as a pariah for the rest of her life.

Even if it does, another liberal will step in. Bryant Gumball just had a biased anti-gun episode on his "sports" show. Liberals dont care about facts just results.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

You deny the lefts public and quoted, not to mention video taped statements as not being backing for my statements yet you provide not proof of the tolerant liberal not going after everyone elses gun rights. Exactly who is without merit here (hint: it is you)?

No, I deny your assertion on "bigots" which you made in post #18. You've shown nothing to indicate that you know what you'e talking about.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Right. And pigs can fly.
It was fraud.

A bad edit. Do you know what a bad edit is?
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

It's your partisan reality that jibes with what actually happened.

Ok do you think Katie Couric is a journalist? Because Jet says she is not.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

A bad edit. Do you know what a bad edit is?

Not when its intentional. It becomes fraud as soon as you materially damage someone with your deception. This may be the case.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Who lost money in the five second pause?

You think the interviewee was portrayed in a certain way that damages his future credibility?
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

1. That didn't answer my question. Why should I trust the raw footage leaked to a right wing website anymore than a documentary created by a left-wing anti-gun agenda?

What part of THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCED THE DOCUMENTARY, INCLUDING COURIC, ADMITTED TO IT is too complicated for you?

2. So their audience was right wing gun nutters?

No, their audience was intended to be people who would instinctively share their and your bigotry against people who disagree with you on the contents issue of guns.

3. There's the problem right there. If you are a conservative group... Seems to me the conservative group wanted to create controversy over nothing yet they were the ones who let themselves get interviewed by Couric in the first place...

So try to pair this

With:

I guess after all is said and done gun owners won't be in many documentaries from here on out which would again be a win for Couric and the left in the long run... Dumb!

This, and you'll see (if you are willing to honestly self assess) how your driver here isn't rationality, but a dislike of those who aren't like you. 2A advocates are dumb if they are willing to defend their views to hostile media. 2A advocates are dumb if they refuse to defend their views to hostile media. The only continuity is that you degrade and look down on the Other. Certainly you aren't being consistent anywhere else.

Also just because a bunch of gun nutters are telling me something wrong is going on, that doesn't make me automatically believe it to be true! In fact, based on where this source is coming from it makes me question it all the more. This was going to be polarizing no matter what! Now it's just ten times more because the gun nutters want it to be. That's why I am calling them gun nutters because they are the ones causing people to freak out about this stupid thing.

5. I guess you don't think there is a difference between Moderate and liberals.

Argues he's not being tribal. Spends his defense calling everyone who disagrees with him "gun-nutters".


Seriously, bro, did you see Jet57 making an idiot of himself in this thread and challenge yourself to beat him at his own game?

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Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

You think the interviewee was portrayed in a certain way that damages his future credibility?

It was a roomful of invulnerable people.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Who lost money in the "fraud"?

Fraud as an adjective does not require financial malfeasance. I don't think anyone said this was criminal fraud.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Not when its intentional. It becomes fraud as soon as you materially damage someone with your deception. This may be the case.

Yeah; it was a bad edit.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Yeah; it was a bad edit.

It was an INTENTIONAL act. An attempt to edit someone's response from one question to another. That's not a bad edit, that's a flat lie.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

It was an INTENTIONAL act. An attempt to edit someone's response from one question to another. That's not a bad edit, that's a flat lie.

You don't know what a bad edit is do you.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

You don't know what a bad edit is do you.

If it was just a bad edit, why did they remove the entire dialogue from the scene? What is the point of asking a question, removing the answer, and keeping the question in? It obviously was made to make it seem like they had no answer to the question.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Yeah; it was a bad edit.

Do you truly believe this?

Although I was never a member of the VCDL, I got to meet many of their members which includes the president ...Mr. Van Cleave.

Gary Moeller coordinates the local gun shows here at the Beach.

These guys are wrapped pretty tight on the issues, and some "air head" like Couric is not going to win on any of the gun issues with these guys.

Bad edit my azz.
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

Fraud as an adjective does not require financial malfeasance. I don't think anyone said this was criminal fraud.

What kind of non-criminal, but "real" fraud was it?

In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.

Who unlawfully gained or lost?
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

You don't know what a bad edit is do you.

when you have the propaganda piece sponsored by most of the Bannerrhoid organizations, that alone ought to tell an intelligent person that the "sclockumentary" is going to be Auber-hackery
 
Re: The Fraud In “Gungate” Is Real, And Should End Katie Couric’s Career

What kind of non-criminal, but "real" fraud was it?

In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.

Who unlawfully gained or lost?


Bannerrhoid propaganda believed it won, truth lost
 
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